[jboss-dev] MC+VDF Bootstrap

David M. Lloyd david.lloyd at redhat.com
Wed Dec 16 10:48:18 EST 2009

Backwards compatibility (especially between major versions) is a 
psychological barrier only.  It is not a requirement AFAICT


On 12/16/2009 09:42 AM, Andrew Lee Rubinger wrote:
> It's this "rebuilding from scratch" approach I want to take, though I
> don't think it'll be a replacement for AS.  More along the lines of a
> parallel project.
> AS, for many, has come to imply:
> * $JBOSS_HOME file structure/layout
> * Standalone Distribution
> * Filesystem and runscript-based interface
> Also AS is the upstream path towards our platform/product.
> With a new name (Reloaded?) we can more easily shed all backwards-compat
> that AS has provided and grow incrementally in a community setting.
> S,
> On 12/16/2009 10:30 AM, Bill Burke wrote:
>> Maybe this could be done with the entire AS.  Define a new profile
>> slowly with the fat trimmed.  Slowly add stuff that is blessed as "main
>> stream".   When its done, you have AS 6.
>> Carlo de Wolf wrote:
>>> My only concern is that we loose the link with AS and thus make it close
>>> to impossible to reintegrate. In effect it'll mean we'll have to
>>> refactor AS itself more extensively.
>>> Apart from that the slimmer, the better.
>>> Carlo
>>> On 12/16/2009 06:50 AM, Andrew Lee Rubinger wrote:
>>>> @see https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RELOADED-10
>>>> In the last design call I noted one approach to building slimmer
>>>> runtimes was to take Carlo's notion of Reloaded, but instead of taking
>>>> from the AS configs get things as trim as possible and only bring up
>>>> what's needed for VDF/MainDeployer.  Ales was kind enough to point me to
>>>> some precanned stuff already used in the jboss-deployers testsuite, so I
>>>> stole a bunch of that and coupled it with jboss-bootstrap-impl-mc.
>>>> The basic test is able to install a new Deployer to the chain and ensure
>>>> it's used when a new Deployment is deployed via MainDeployer.  Takes
>>>> about 1.9 seconds on my machine from JVM start to shutdown.
>>>> http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/jbossas/projects/reloaded/trunk/vdf-bootstrap-minimal/src/test/java/MainDeployerUnitTest.java
>>>> I think the next steps are as we've already discussed:
>>>> 1) Make this into an extensible component which can be
>>>> reused/extended/composed
>>>> 2) Bring up ProfileService in another extension
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> S,
>>>> ALR
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