[jboss-dev] Looking for Wow factor in AS 5.x

[robb.greathouse at jboss.com]

These are good points.

With regard to the application stack war.  For us, getting all our frameworks/products/projects to play well with each other will be a huge advantage.  We are well along with this effort.

We need to keep going and identify hubs in the product/project world to drive it forward.  For example, Infinispan/JCloud could be the hub for products/projects becoming "cloudy".  Seam could be the integration point for integration with web apps.  ESB for services. Andiamo (AKA Teiid, AKA Metamatrix) for data exchange.

For the near future there is a lot of functionality that can be created just by making integration of frameworks easier.

Robb Greathouse
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----- "Trustin Lee (이희승)" <trustin at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Emmanuel Bernard
> <emmanuel at hibernate.org> wrote:
> > And bean validation and jsf2. In and by themselves these specs are a
> leap
> > forward our current stack (and everybody else's). And for the first
> time
> > these specs (jpa 2, jsf 2, bv, cdi) have been designed to actually
> work
> > naturally as a unified whole.
> > The framework war is over, welcome to the application stack war.
> 
> As long as the frameworks are part of the stack and users have access
> to them, the frameworks matter IMHO, especially when it comes to API
> design and usability.  Two frameworks or libraries with same feature
> set and different APIs can make a huge difference.  It's something
> like we say we can't tell the quality of software by the number of
> ticked check boxes.
> 
> But, I do agree with you the application stack matters a LOT, too. :)
> 
> — Trustin Lee, http://gleamynode.net/
> 
> > On 12 sept. 2009, at 09:15, Max Rydahl Andersen
> <max.andersen at redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > JPA2, CDI/WebBeans and JBoss Embedded is not enough for you ? ;)
> >
> > /max
> >
> > Robb Greathouse wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am putting together a workshop for JBoss AS 5.x.  I am looking for
> some
> > real wow factors.  And frankly, even after talking to the core
> developers
> > (who agree) I am not finding any wow factors.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Robb Greathouse
> > JBoss
> > CELL 505-507-4906
> > OFFICE 505-255-2652
> > FAX 505-554-2834
> > SKYPE rgreathouse
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- "Shelly McGowan" <smcgowan at redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Jason,
> >
> >
> > RE:
> >
> >
> > Also, let me know if you have a component you would like to
> > update/include that has low impact.
> >
> >
> > jboss-test and jboss-server-manager currently include alpha
> releases;
> > specifically,
> >
> > <groupId>org.jboss.test</groupId>
> >         <artifactId>jboss-test</artifactId>
> >         <version>1.1.5-alpha-2</version>
> >
> > <groupId>org.jboss.jbossas</groupId>
> >         <artifactId>jboss-server-manager</artifactId>
> >         <version>1.0.3-alpha-2</version>
> >
> >
> > These were needed as part of ALRs new bootstrap implementation
> > (JBASM-30, JBASM-31). Are these alpha versions acceptable
> > for the Beta1 release or would you prefer .GA?
> >
> >
> > Shelly
> >
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