thanks i think i had some older doc where it wasnt as clearly laid out. or somehow i missed it cause i have read the doc i have had a few times. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3980212#3980212 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=3980212