On your last point, my standard Spring bash is "Spring - a much simpler way to write broken J2EE applications." :) View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3998329#3998329 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=3998329