[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: JBPM WITHOUT the starter kit

markricard do-not-reply at jboss.com
Thu Mar 15 20:53:27 EDT 2007

Sure I will respond.

"did you look at the docs? If yes, did you find or mis relevant info in there "
Yes, I looked in the docs.   Could not get it to work.   Docs in general (even outside of JBoss) are almost never reliable.

"did you search the forum? If yes, did you find or mis relevant info in there "
Yes.  Almost all of the posts from people involve using the starter kit that we found.  (Examples below)

"did you look at the wiki? If yes, did you find or mis relevant info in there"
Yes.  The wiki typically contains copy and paste info from the docs.

Take a look at the following post:

Asked the same question I have at the end and there was no response from Jan 15th.

Then look at this post:

You are supposed to do a "diff"?   Really?  Seems very "hacky" to me.  And the post died there so you don't know if that worked or not.

jBPM seems like quite the hog.  Take a look at YAWL.  (http://yawlfoundation.org/index.php) I was able to setup the workflow engine in about 15 minutes - and it has all of the functionality that jBPM does without the bloat of having to run in JBoss.

In addition, we actually pay for support from JBoss.  And many times our questions take a long time to get answered - or are answered as if we were developing JBoss core code ourselves - which we are not.   

Frankly, we feel (all 5 of us)  that the answering of questions has gotten worse lately - perhaps because there are so few of you and so many more of us.  (compared to 2 or 3 years ago)

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