mclu, If you read the thread back, what fheldt said is the same thing that Tim Fox said back on this thread. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4080995#4080995 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4080995