there sure is but im trying to keep stuff clear - heres the full stack trace : http://phpfi.com/265097 View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4088566#4088566 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4088566