i'm experimenting with removing the various jars now, so i'll let you know if i get anywhere. thanks for the help View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4134245#4134245 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4134245