[jboss-user] [jBPM] - Re: Which Designer?
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Tihomir Surdilovic [https://community.jboss.org/people/tsurdilovic] created the discussion
"Re: Which Designer?"
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>> Another question by the way : is there a more simple way to get web designer version directly under drools-gubnor ;) ? <<
You can click on the "Info" button in the Designer navigation bar which will give you it's version. It is a round button with an "i" in it ;)
>> many input fields are free and there is not much assistance on what to input <<
This was made easier in Designer 2.3.0.Final, as you now have task-type specific properties. So by changing your task type, the properties shown are specific to it rather than showing general task properties.
>> I don't not know what mistake I must have made but now I have nothing the Evaluation process. No matter I will use the import BPMN2 function, but when you paste the orignal source code of the Evaluation.bpmn file, I have an error in the server log of JAS 7.0.2 (NPE). <<
What is this error? There are some minor differences in the generated BPMN2 code with the Eclipse editor so there could be some problems moving it to Designer, but if you show us the BPMN2 we can point you in the right direction quickly
>> I try to use a "Reusable Subprocess" when in the window "Editor for Called Elements" i have no process in the list although I have other defined in drools guvnor... <<
I have not encountered this problem yet, in Guvnor if you go to the Administration tab and then Import/Export, can you export your repository (it will generate a .zip file that you can save) and show it so can test?
>> I try to save all other processes and export bpmn2 files and same for process images (png) and then I have some processes displayed in the list but not all :( and I don't understand why... <<
Not sure either without seeing some errors in logs or a better, reproducible description of what you are doing
>> How do you use Boundary Events ? In my version I don't think I am able to specify a Boundary Event on a specific Task, no graphical component named Boundary Event available in the Shape Repository... <<
You can drag an even to the edge of a task/subprocess and you will see its edges turn green color. Dropping your even when the edges are green will make it a boundary event automatically for you.
>> When writing this, I told myself I must give another try : with a task, miracle it's working. In fact I think I am not used to clicking on the Morph Shape Function. I thought all the possible components were avaibable in the Shape Repository but it seems that it is not the case. (ex: Throwing Error Intermediate Event displayed in blue color not avaibable directly (you must use Morph Shape to get it) although Catching Error Intermediate Event displayed in brown color available in the Shape Repository). Actually I tried till now to put a Boundary Event on a Reusable SubProcess directly and with this web designer version it don't think it is possible : you must first put the Boundary Event on a Basic Task first and then Morph the Basic Task to a Reusable Subprocess so that it works. <<
I will try this out..but best for you would be if you encounter issues like this to open a jBPM Jira so we can fix it.
>> 1- I read in the 5.3.0 Final User Guide that there were a way to directly use an xml file describing a BPM process so it means that the web designer does not offer all the functionnalities the jBPM engine is able to handle, is that correct? <<
Nope, from the current jBPM BPMN2 Editors Designer is the only one what actually supports everything that the jBPM runtime can execute.
>> 2- If I use New BPMN2 modeler unde eclipse will the JBPM Engine be able to handle everything coming from eclipse New BPMN2 Modeler file? <<
With Eclipse you have to at times modify the BPMN2 XML by hand to some constructs in there.
>> I must say that I really enjoy jBPM solution through the documentaiton even if I think in my case and opinion the first steps are not easy to handle when using the differents tools. <<
Well we give you free help here or on IRC or if you raise Jiras we fix them also for free ... so you could maybe help with the documentation as well if you feel like contributing something back ;)
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