[jbossdeveloper] http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ looks weird...

Fri Aug 1 13:17:05 EDT 2014

Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu:
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> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
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>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>
>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on 
>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one 
>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and 
>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the 
>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata  to the README files?
>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the 
>>>>>>> table of quickstarts?
>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to 
>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you saying that 
>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will redirect 
>>>>> to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/?
>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the 
>>>>> original site?
>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to an 
>>>> page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that 
>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) was 
>>>> moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or 
>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to 
>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials
>>>>
>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ?
>>>
>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not 
>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, I 
>>> will get bug reports from QA. :-(
>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single redirect ;)
>
> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community quicktarts is to 
> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree?
Oh yeah! Definitely! :)
>>
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site at openshift 
>>>>>>>> redirect.
>>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu:
>>>>>>>>> :/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at
>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org 
>>>>>>>>> URL) with
>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss 
>>>>>>>>> Developer
>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the 
>>>>>>>>> button
>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, 
>>>>>>>>> Tutorials,
>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the 
>>>>>>>>>> text says.
>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found 
>>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>. The 
>>>>>>>>>> table
>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it demonstrates, 
>>>>>>>>>> gives a
>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of experience
>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a
>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we 
>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced
>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was done
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>       • This was the pull:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>       • This was the commit:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a36437fec34346160bd15a0ece07c338 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIRAs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download button:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both point 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to jdf-site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for former
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/jboss-eap-6.3.0.CR1-quickstarts.zip 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-develop/README.md#available-quickstarts 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too late to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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