[jbosstools-dev] Re: a classpath container problem about JBoss server jars

[Denny Xu]

Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>> Is it possible that ask JbossWS team move the three jars to other folder,
>>     
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> You mean move it within JBoss AS ? Then most likely no since this is 
> how the product is shipped today.
>   
>> so that Adapter can avoid to add the three jars to the project classpath? because it seems that the three jars will
>> only be needed when generate code using jbossws command line tools.
>>     
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> Wouldn't it be easier to just update our adapter not to include these jars ?
>
> This is what I would like to do as soon as someone from the JBossWS tells us why
> those jars are there int he first place if not relevant for the runtime.
>   
Yes,  it seems that update out adapter is the easiest way to solve the issue. it is a workaround.


> I've pinged Heiko again on the forum thread - http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=136698
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> /max
>
>   
>> Denny
>>
>>
>> Rob Stryker wrote:
>>     
>>> We tried doing it the way you're suggesting, Denny, by facet alone.
>>> However, some core eclipse facets did not respond properly by asking
>>> us (me, the server) to install the appropriate additions to the
>>> classpath.
>>>
>>> Because several core eclipse facets were incorrect, it was decided
>>> that we should do what the other adapters did. By a wide margin, what
>>> the other adapters did was add every possible jar onto the classpath.
>>> It was decided it was more important for it to just work automatically
>>> for the most common use cases (dynamic web project, jsf, etc) than it
>>> was to force the user to go adding their own jars to the classpath for
>>> facets that refused to ask me for additions.
>>>
>>> I suppose I could have gone the other way with this and filed bug
>>> reports with each and every eclipse facet which did not respond
>>> appropriately, (and we did for some), but we had releases we wanted to
>>> get out. It was not possible to do it the other way and still release.
>>> Eclipse would have taken forever.
>>>
>>> Denny Xu wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Hi all
>>>> when create a dynamic web project by using JBoss as its target
>>>> runtime,  JBoss adaptor will add all jboss jars into the project
>>>> classpath.
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand that why we need to set all of jars to the
>>>> classpath? if I understand it correctly, when set web project target
>>>> runtime, it just need a minimal set of runtime jars only for
>>>> web project and if users need additional supported jars for other
>>>> framework, users can add it manually or can be done by other way
>>>> such as project facet, just like seam and jsf.
>>>>
>>>> Is that right?
>>>>
>>>> Denny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> Ok, I pinged Heiko ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> -max
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> And I have created a topic on the jboss ws user forums.
>>>>>> http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=136698
>>>>>> But no one reply it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Grid - I saw your latest commits goes in and fiddle with the
>>>>>>> classpath and remove the entries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This might work, but it is a huge hack and very much dependent on
>>>>>>> specific versions of AS/JBossWS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We need to talk to the WS guys on what those jars
>>>>>>> are for and when they should be included/excluded.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they are not needed at all we should fix our server adapter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please raise this with the JBossWS team and provide us with the
>>>>>>> link to the discussion
>>>>>>> on the forums.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -max
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> So when are these two jars ever needed ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is the question we need an answer to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -max
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> This issue maybe caused by JbossWS, it seems that more than one
>>>>>>>>> "javax.xml.ws.spi.Provider"  classes are package into the
>>>>>>>>> library.  if
>>>>>>>>> user select JBoss as its server,  JBoss will set all jars in
>>>>>>>>> jboss libs
>>>>>>>>> to project classpath, including the two weird jars, so the issue
>>>>>>>>> can not
>>>>>>>>> be fixed by adding facet UI.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Denny
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> gridqian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> I think this maybe fix this problem. If user let facet add
>>>>>>>>>> jars, we
>>>>>>>>>> can control copy jars.
>>>>>>>>>> But if user let server do it, how do we control copy jars? Now in
>>>>>>>>>> server classpath con-
>>>>>>>>>> tainer there are the two jars too.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> This should fix the problem then, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> PS - remember to reply to all so the responses all go to the
>>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>>> list ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> gridqian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, Rob. Denny is doing this task.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Grid:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should have a page similar to the jsf facet's page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When creating a JSF project or enabling the JSF facet (in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seam
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project),
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is a page where the user selects whether to let the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> facet add
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the jars
>>>>>>>>>>>>> manually or let the server do it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the user selects let the server do it, then your facet
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT add the jars
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and should instead let the server itself do it (aka my code,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> adds the container
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with all the jars). If your user DOES select to add the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jars, then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you should do so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to see an example of this by creating a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> new Seam
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One page is the JSF page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try to work similar to that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Rob Stryker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gridqian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a problem when I create jboss ws and rum a client
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sample.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I focus on extending wtp web service framework to support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JBoss WS. To do this task, we must firstly create a dynamic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project and then generate web service or web service client
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> codes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far I can create web service and web service client. For
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convenience I generate a client sample to call web service.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you know, if the dynamic web project is assigned a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jboss server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system will add a jboss server classpath container to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classpath and add many jars into this container. These jars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> include
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaxws-rt.jar and jaxws-tools.jar. When I run the web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service client
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sample class,  a issue occurs and the client do not call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web servcie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully. After google this issue,  I found  only if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remove  the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two jars (jaxws-rt.jar and jaxws-tools.jar)  from project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classpath, the  issue will be  fixed successfully.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So how to do to fix this issue? I think we have two ways:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 when create jboss server classpath container, we do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   two jars to the container.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   But in this case, I do not know whether other dynamic web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   can run successfully without these two jars.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 Like done as before, add all of jars to jboss server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> container.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   create web service client project, I remove these two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jars from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   container.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   but I do not know how remove jars from a container?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which way is better? and if choose second way, who can tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me how to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remove jars from a classpath container?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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