[jbosstools-dev] Re: UPDATE: Assistance in testing JBDS with SOA-P
Max Rydahl Andersen
max.andersen at redhat.com
Wed Jan 28 12:28:41 EST 2009
On 28-01-2009 18:04, Jeffrey Delong wrote:
> "Yes, the big problem is that there seem to be no way for us to define a
> drools runtime based on SOA-P."
>
> Well the jars are in jbrules.esb, however for SOA-P 4.3 they are jars from Drools 4.0.7 (well actually a derivative of). I believe the plan is in SOA-P 4.3 FP01 they will be replaced with jars from Drools 5 / JBoss BRMS.
>
Yes, but the plugin should work with both versions (4 and 5) and
whatever minor/micro updates the platform will do.
/max
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Max Rydahl Andersen"<max.andersen at redhat.com>
> To: "Jeffrey Delong"<jdelong at redhat.com>
> Cc: "John Graham"<jgraham at redhat.com>, jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org, "Mark Little"<mlittle at redhat.com>, "Mark Proctor"<mproctor at redhat.com>, "Kris Verlaenen"<kverlaen at redhat.com>, "Koen Aers"<kaers at redhat.com>, "Burr Sutter"<bsutter at redhat.com>, "Leonard Dimaggio"<ldimaggi at redhat.com>, "Kevin Conner"<kconner at redhat.com>, "Garvin Dean"<garvin.dean at amentra.com>, "Edgar A Silva"<edgar.silva at redhat.com>, "Prakasha Aradhya"<paradhya at redhat.com>, "Max Andersen"<manderse at redhat.com>, "Trevor Kirby"<tkirby at redhat.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:01:19 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
> Subject: Re: UPDATE: Assistance in testing JBDS with SOA-P
>
>
>
>> The problem is with the "Drools Runtime". As part of the setup for creating a Drools Project for the first time, the user is asked to create a "Drools Runtime". This is new (in the past Drools IDE new which set of jars to use),
>>
> No it didn't - it just had some random copy from inside the drools
> plugin which would not necessarily match the server it is running on.
>
>
>> to be consistent with other tools and allow user to select different Drools Runtimes. The challenge for the user is how to define a Drools Runtime. You can either find the jars in JBDS plugins, explode them into a folder, and point to them, or download Drools engine/expert (in this case I had decided to try jboss-brms-engine-5.ea.zip, since this is the .com version). However when this is unzipped, some jars are in the root of the folder and some are in a lib directory. At least four of the ones in the lib directory are required for runtime (antlr-runtime-3.1.1.jar, core-3.4.2.v_883_R34x.jar, mvel2-2.0.5.jar, xstream-1.3.1.jar), and the jars in a subdirectory are not added to the runtime classpath. I knew this but forgot to move antlr-runtime-3.1.1.ja!
>> r.
>>
>>
> Yes, the big problem is that there seem to be no way for us to define a
> drools runtime based on SOA-P. That is the last I heard about it from
> Kris V.
>
> If someone from SOA-P can tell us which jar's users should use to define
> the jars then we could automatically include those in the runtime.
>
> I also need to follow up with the drools functionality since it should
> not be a *requirement* to have the drools runtime on a project; it
> should just be in the classpath.
>
> /max
>
>> I entered a JIRA for this.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Max Rydahl Andersen"<max.andersen at redhat.com>
>> To: "Jeffrey Delong"<jdelong at redhat.com>
>> Cc: "John Graham"<jgraham at redhat.com>, jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org, "Mark Little"<mlittle at redhat.com>, "Mark Proctor"<mproctor at redhat.com>, "Kris Verlaenen"<kverlaen at redhat.com>, "Koen Aers"<kaers at redhat.com>, "Burr Sutter"<bsutter at redhat.com>, "Leonard Dimaggio"<ldimaggi at redhat.com>, "Kevin Conner"<kconner at redhat.com>, "Garvin Dean"<garvin.dean at amentra.com>, "Edgar A Silva"<edgar.silva at redhat.com>, "Prakasha Aradhya"<paradhya at redhat.com>, "Max Andersen"<manderse at redhat.com>, "Trevor Kirby"<tkirby at redhat.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:34:47 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>> Subject: Re: UPDATE: Assistance in testing JBDS with SOA-P
>>
>> On 28-01-2009 05:07, Jeffrey Delong wrote:
>>
>> I tested out the Drools IDE in JBDS. I used the Drools icon to create a new Drools project, and ran the DroolsTest class the wizard created as a Java Application. I got the following exception:
>>
>> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/antlr/runtime/CharStream Please report such things directly in jira - thanks.
>>
>> /max
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Graham"<jgraham at redhat.com> To: "Jeffrey Delong"<jdelong at redhat.com> Cc: "Max Rydahl Andersen"<max.andersen at redhat.com> , jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org , "Mark Little"<mlittle at redhat.com> , "Mark Proctor"<mproctor at redhat.com> , "Kris Verlaenen"<kverlaen at redhat.com> , "Koen Aers"<kaers at redhat.com> , "Burr Sutter"<bsutter at redhat.com> , "Leonard Dimaggio"<ldimaggi at redhat.com> , "Kevin Conner"<kconner at redhat.com> , "Garvin Dean"<garvin.dean at amentra.com> , "Edgar A Silva"<edgar.silva at redhat.com> , "Prakasha Aradhya"<paradhya at redhat.com> , "Max Andersen"<manderse at redhat.com> , "Trevor Kirby"<tkirby at redhat.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:53:53 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>> Subject: Re: UPDATE: Assistance in testing JBDS with SOA-P
>>
>> We have run the usual test clients from Eclipse with success, but a lot
>> depends on environment settings (that would be handled by ant parameters
>> in the command line version of the Quick Starts). Could you give us more
>> information about your project so we can see what might be going wrong
>> with the test client?
>>
>> -- John
>>
>> On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 20:42 -0500, Jeffrey Delong wrote:
>>
>> Next issue I have had is in trying to run a test client. I copied a SendEsbMessage from a quickstart (along with log4j.xml, juddi.properteies, and jndi.properties) and modified it, and have tried to run it. I had to add several entries to the Run configuration classpath, but still get
>>
>> Exception in thread "main" org.jboss.soa.esb.listeners.message.MessageDeliverException: Invocation exception. null
>> at org.jboss.soa.esb.client.ServiceInvoker.loadServiceClusterInfo(ServiceInvoker.java:474)
>> at org.jboss.soa.esb.client.ServiceInvoker.<init>(ServiceInvoker.java:165)
>> at org.jboss.soa.esb.client.ServiceInvoker.<init>(ServiceInvoker.java:146)
>> at org.jboss.soa.esb.client.ServiceInvoker.<init>(ServiceInvoker.java:188)
>> at org.acme.test.SendEsbMessage.main(SendEsbMessage.java:51)
>>
>>
>> When I look in debug mode the registry and classname are null???
>>
>> I don't know if this is a supported feature but it is certainly a requirement to be able to create and run a test client (both JMS and ESB aware).
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeffrey Delong"<jdelong at redhat.com> To: "Max Rydahl Andersen"<max.andersen at redhat.com> Cc: "John Graham"<jgraham at redhat.com> , jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org , "Mark Little"<mlittle at redhat.com> , "Mark Proctor"<mproctor at redhat.com> , "Kris Verlaenen"<kverlaen at redhat.com> , "Koen Aers"<kaers at redhat.com> , "Burr Sutter"<bsutter at redhat.com> , "Leonard Dimaggio"<ldimaggi at redhat.com> , "Kevin Conner"<kconner at redhat.com> , "Garvin Dean"<garvin.dean at amentra.com> , "Edgar A Silva"<edgar.silva at redhat.com> , "Prakasha Aradhya"<paradhya at redhat.com> , "Max Andersen"<manderse at redhat.com> , "Trevor Kirby"<tkirby at redhat.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:57:38 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>> Subject: Re: UPDATE: Assistance in testing JBDS with SOA-P
>>
>> Well I know because I read the latest SOA-P documentation, in particular the ProgrammersGuide and ServicesGuide fairly thoroughly as I was updating training material. I don't know how you would know unless someone from the SOA team told you: "here is what has changed / here is what is new ..."
>>
>> In this instance SmooksTransformer is still supported, however the documentation recommends using SmooksAction instead.
>>
>> Another new feature that is not accounted for in JBDS is EBWS support, which is configured with:
>>
>> <actions inXsd="/request.xsd" outXsd="/response.xsd" faultXsd="/fault.xsd">
>>
>> I am able to add it by hand to the source without complaint (I guess this is because you have the latest xsd).
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Max Rydahl Andersen"<max.andersen at redhat.com> To: "Jeffrey Delong"<jdelong at redhat.com> Cc: "John Graham"<jgraham at redhat.com> , jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org , "Mark Little"<mlittle at redhat.com> , "Mark Proctor"<mproctor at redhat.com> , "Kris Verlaenen"<kverlaen at redhat.com> , "Koen Aers"<kaers at redhat.com> , "Burr Sutter"<bsutter at redhat.com> , "Leonard Dimaggio"<ldimaggi at redhat.com> , "Kevin Conner"<kconner at redhat.com> , "Garvin Dean"<garvin.dean at amentra.com> , "Edgar A Silva"<edgar.silva at redhat.com> , "Prakasha Aradhya"<paradhya at redhat.com> , "Max Andersen"<manderse at redhat.com> , "Trevor Kirby"<tkirby at redhat.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:24:10 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>> Subject: Re: UPDATE: Assistance in testing JBDS with SOA-P
>>
>> On 26-01-2009 04:00, Jeffrey Delong wrote:
>>
>> Hit send to soon. Also wanted to add that the JBoss ESB EditorSmooks action configuration is out-of-date. Smooks Transformer Action should really be Smooks Action and the class should be org.jboss.soa.esb.smooks.SmooksAction. Also there are additional properties that could be configured (e.g., resultType and javaResultBeanId) and the From Type and To Type under Advanced are out-of-date as well. How can we know which are the correct ones ?
>>
>> We basically only have the DTD/XSD to give us that information and we just updated to the latest greatest .xsd less than a week ago.
>>
>> Any pointers would be good.
>>
>> /max
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeffrey Delong"<jdelong at redhat.com> To: "John Graham"<jgraham at redhat.com> , jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org Cc: "Mark Little"<mlittle at redhat.com> , "Mark Proctor"<mproctor at redhat.com> , "Kris Verlaenen"<kverlaen at redhat.com> , "Koen Aers"<kaers at redhat.com> , "Burr Sutter"<bsutter at redhat.com> , "Leonard Dimaggio"<ldimaggi at redhat.com> , "Kevin Conner"<kconner at redhat.com> , "Garvin Dean"<garvin.dean at amentra.com> , "Edgar A Silva"<edgar.silva at redhat.com> , "Prakasha Aradhya"<paradhya at redhat.com> , "Max Andersen"<manderse at redhat.com> , "Trevor Kirby"<tkirby at redhat.com> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:38:50 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>> Subject: Re: UPDATE: Assistance in testing JBDS with SOA-P
>>
>> John,
>>
>> I finally got a chance to download and test out a bit. I have been using prior release of jboss tools for the past several weeks and have had good success using the jboss-esb config editor. I actually downloaded CR2 today, but had a couple issues:
>>
>> 1) I tried to use the Smooks Config Editor to configure a Java to XML transformation. I could not use the Graph view to connect the lines. So I edited the Source by hand, and then the Graph view correctly displayed the lines.
>>
>> 2) It is not clear how to create an esb archive and deploy it to jbossesb. Is this functionality supported in this release?
>>
>> Any documentation?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Graham"<jgraham at redhat.com> To: "Mark Little"<mlittle at redhat.com> , "Mark Proctor"<mproctor at redhat.com> , "Kris Verlaenen"<kverlaen at redhat.com> , "Koen Aers"<kaers at redhat.com> , "Burr Sutter"<bsutter at redhat.com> , "Leonard Dimaggio"<ldimaggi at redhat.com> , "Kevin Conner"<kconner at redhat.com> , "Jeffrey Delong"<jdelong at redhat.com> , "Garvin Dean"<garvin.dean at amentra.com> , "Edgar A Silva"<edgar.silva at redhat.com> , "Prakasha Aradhya"<paradhya at redhat.com> , "Max Andersen"<manderse at redhat.com> , "Trevor Kirby"<tkirby at redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 12:30:09 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>> Subject: UPDATE: Assistance in testing JBDS with SOA-P
>>
>> Following up:
>>
>> 1. I should have prefaced the original message with "Please feel free to
>> forward to anyone else (internal to RH/JB or under the appropriate
>> agreements for this sort of internal information) who you might think
>> would be interested in testing." If you do, please let me know, so I can
>> add them into the list of people receiving these email updates.
>>
>> 2. Related to (1): Why not just use a mailing list like soa-tools? There
>> are a couple of reasons: (a) There is no single list, or small set of
>> lists, that covers everyone involved (and, no, I am not sending this
>> request to thecore ;) ), (b) this is a short term, focused request, (c)
>> list requests are like talking to a stadium of people, whereas this
>> subset shows that I am talking to *you* :)
>>
>> 3. (Thanks, Len and Trev!) For the SOA-P download please use: http://jawa05.englab.brq.redhat.com/released/soa-p-4.3.0.GA/ 4. (Thanks, Max, Len, and Jeff!) Ignore the "all plug-ins" zips for the
>> tooling, and use the installer jar instead. You might find that your
>> browser attempts to open this jar directly instead of downloading it, in
>> which case you'll need to do a "save as" on the installer jar. Once
>> downloaded, from the command line issue "java -jar ...." with the jar
>> name to start the installer.
>>
>> 5. If you test but don't find any problems, still please drop an email
>> to Max and I saying that you've tried. Since "no response" does not mean
>> "tried it and found no problems to report," these notes will help Max
>> and I determine the test coverage in place for this combination.
>>
>> 6. Particular importance of this JBDS release: This is the release that
>> we'll take to EclipseCon in March, and we'd like to push it hard,
>> especially in the SOA area. We just need to be sure that what we push
>> doesn't fall over. :)
>>
>> Thanks again!
>> John
>>
>> On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 15:54 -0500, John Graham wrote:
>>
>> As we reach the final stages of the JBoss Developer Studio (JBDS) 2.0
>> release, we are seeking help in testing the JBDS/SOA-P combination. In
>> particular, we're interested in how the jBPM and Drools distributions
>> bundled in the SOA-P product work with JBDS.
>>
>> So, while testing and feedback at any stage is appreciated, the critical
>> period for release will be over the next 10 days or so. Any timely
>> feedback will help us to improve the tooling offered for this product
>> configuration.
>>
>> The specific builds of each:
>>
>> * JBDS 2.0: Use http://reports.qa.atl.jboss.com/binaries/RHDS/release/2.0.0.CR1/200812221144/ via the installer. (EAP is optional.)
>>
>> * SOA-P: Use http://jawa05.englab.brq.redhat.com/candidate/soa-4.3.0.GA_IR5/ (SOA team: this is the link that was provided to JBDS QE a while ago; if
>> a later build should be used, please let us know in this thread.)
>>
>> If any questions come up during testing, it probably is best to use the jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org mailing list, since that will get the
>> most people in the most time zones. (Of course there's always JIRA for
>> bugs.)
>>
>> A number of people on thread have tested various milestones of this JBDS
>> release, and the input has been very valuable. We hope each of you can
>> spare a few cycles to help us wrap up testing for this product
>> combination.
>>
>> -- John
>>
>>
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