[jbosstools-dev] Current WTP-style project offerings

Fri Oct 2 12:09:28 EDT 2009


Gary Brown wrote:
> Hi Brian
>
> If I understand you correctly, you mean that an Eclipse user may way 
> to deploy their BPEL from one project and reference their WSDL from 
> another project? (same for xsd aswell?)
>
> If so, then I don't think we care from the riftsaw/runtime 
> perspective, as long as the deployed archive has the wsdl contained 
> within the same hierarchy as the BPEL and deployment descriptor, and 
> that all the relative paths are correctly resolved.
Yes, I'm talking about the tooling not the runtime here.

-max
>
> From a user perspective, I think it might be nice to offer the 
> flexibility, but depends on how easier it will be to ensure the 
> relative paths are all resolved correctly.
>
> Regards
> Gary
>
> Brian Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> Gary or John, do we have a deployment requirement for Riftsaw to be 
>> able to deploy other folders of wsdl from other projects/locations 
>> for BPEL?
>> --Fitz
>>
>> _______________________________
>> Brian Fitzpatrick (aka "Fitz")
>> Senior Software Engineer, SOA-P
>> JBoss by Red Hat
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen at redhat.com>
>> To: "Rob Stryker" <rob.stryker at redhat.com>
>> Cc: "Brian Fitzpatrick" <bfitzpat at redhat.com>, 
>> jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org
>> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2009 3:28:14 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Current WTP-style project offerings
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob Stryker wrote:
>>> Ok I've got something working for the BPEL with only minimal 
>>> changes. It took some finessing but that's it. I still need to know 
>>> our backwards compatibility requirements with previous versions (if 
>>> there were any), with the eclipse bpel project, which folders the 
>>> source belong in, where we expect the .class files to go inside the 
>>> resultant jar, etc etc etc. 
>> 1) IMO we have no backwards compability requirements here since we 
>> should be moving these jboss specific facet/deployment behavior to a 
>> separate plugin/set of id's. i.e. if you use the org.eclipse plugins 
>> you just keep doing that and it will still work, correct ? 
>> Furthermore we moved to use utility jar so that is what will deploy 
>> for the old ones, not ours...afaik (please verify that ;)
>>
>> 2) There are currently zero class files in BPEL project and it does 
>> not even need to be a java project (of course we should not prevent 
>> that from being possible)
>>
>> btw. is there a way to enable BPEL deployment to happen from an 
>> existing project ? i.e. say this java project got these 2 folders 
>> that we would like to bundle as  a BPEL artifact ?
>>
>> Another requirement I remember SOA guys put in the PRD for JBDS was 
>> the ability to include other folders of wsdl from other 
>> projects/locations. Is that possible now ?
>>
>> -max
>>> Brian Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>>> Again, if it helps...
>>>> The New BPEL Project wizard code is located in the 
>>>> org.eclipse.bpel.runtimes plug-in as 
>>>> org.eclipse.bpel.runtimes.ui.wizards.NewBPELProjectWizard
>>>>
>>>> The facets and deployment modules also appear to be in that plug-in.
>>>> --Fitz
>>>> _______________________________
>>>> Brian Fitzpatrick (aka "Fitz")
>>>> Senior Software Engineer, SOA-P
>>>> JBoss by Red Hat
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen at redhat.com>
>>>> To: "Rob Stryker" <rob.stryker at redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: "Brian Fitzpatrick" <bfitzpat at redhat.com>, 
>>>> jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 1:42:08 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada 
>>>> Mountain
>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Current WTP-style project offerings
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rob Stryker wrote:
>>>>> I've never made a project wizard that used the faceted framework. 
>>>>> Denny has. For Denny to make one for BPEL would be simply using 
>>>>> the exact same extension points he used in ESB, except in BPEL, 
>>>>> with small changes for things like ids, classes, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I consider this "duplication". 
>>>> No, it's two different features - doesn't duplicate (bad), just do 
>>>> similar things in similar ways (good) ;)
>>>>> Also I don't know anything at all about the BPEL project 
>>>>> structures, where the current wizard is, how the current wizard 
>>>>> works, what the important backwards compatability issues / 
>>>>> pressure points might be, etc etc etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure if I just dug through code for 2 or 3 days I could get 
>>>>> something workable 
>>>> We need this done before M4 - what things do you have on your plate 
>>>> for M4 that won't be done if you look into this ?
>>>>
>>>> /max
>>>>> Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>>>>>> Rob Stryker wrote:
>>>>>>> Ahh... well... This wasn't stuff that I did; it's stuff Denny 
>>>>>>> did. I imagine this would be pretty in-depth to get the project 
>>>>>>> set up, not something trivial, so I'm not even 100% sure where 
>>>>>>> to look yet. Primarily it would be duplicating something similar 
>>>>>>> to the two esb plugins with project in the name:  
>>>>>>> org.jboss.tools.esb.project.core  and  
>>>>>>> org.jboss.tools.esb.project.ui. 
>>>>>> btw. No sure what you mean with duplication here ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /max
>>>>>>> Max:  Should I direct myself to this task immediately or should 
>>>>>>> I try to help Brian work through it? I'm not familiar with all 
>>>>>>> the extension points but I'm sure I could figure it out if you 
>>>>>>> wanted me to ASAP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Rob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brian Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>>>>>>> Denny's on vacation for a while. Won't be back until after 
>>>>>>>> their holiday.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That leaves yours truly to help, though I'm just as blind in 
>>>>>>>> this code as you are.
>>>>>>>> Can you point me at the work you did for ESB and point me in a 
>>>>>>>> direction to do something similar in the BPEL area?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --Fitz
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________
>>>>>>>> Brian Fitzpatrick (aka "Fitz")
>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, SOA-P
>>>>>>>> JBoss by Red Hat
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Rob Stryker" <rob.stryker at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>> Cc: jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:33:58 PM GMT -07:00 
>>>>>>>> US/Canada Mountain
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Current WTP-style project offerings
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Denny:
>>>>>>>>   I didn't see any response to Max's two questions from you. 
>>>>>>>> Are you available to do these tasks??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Here's a good summary of what's made already for the WTP 
>>>>>>>>>> projects. I
>>>>>>>>>> believe the ESB project already makes use of it. 
>>>>>>>>> Denny, Is the ESB module using this now ?
>>>>>>>>>> The BPEL project does
>>>>>>>>>> *not* and since I am not familiar with the BPEL project code, 
>>>>>>>>>> or all
>>>>>>>>>> that goes into creating a new project wizard for WTP projects 
>>>>>>>>>> (never did
>>>>>>>>>> work on that part), I'd need someone else (Denny?) to set up 
>>>>>>>>>> the UI and
>>>>>>>>>> associated pages and installation delegates to properly 
>>>>>>>>>> change the BPEL
>>>>>>>>>> project's format. I can assist on which references would be 
>>>>>>>>>> needed in
>>>>>>>>>> the installation delegate, but I'm not familiar with the rest 
>>>>>>>>>> of it. 
>>>>>>>>> This require we defines what facet's etc. is installed and 
>>>>>>>>> what they do for BPEL.
>>>>>>>>> Denny - could you outline this in the wiki ? 
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