[jbosstools-dev] SAP Services Registry Plugin

Fri Jan 25 09:32:40 EST 2013

> > You have summed up things perfectly. We would need to fork and
> > maintain ourselves.
> 
> Do we really want that ?
> It doesn't seem like the most simple code base to maintain.
>

Great point... I think I have some work ahead of me in that respect.

> > We would also need to resolve how to bundle the core search
> > functionality, which is currently in binary format only. If we
> > need to have that open sourced that to make this work, I can
> > investigate the feasibility of making that happen.
> 
> We can't bundle non-opensource things so that would need to be looked
> at - but first I would like to understand what are we trying to do
> here before we add such a generic search framework just to be able
> to search WSDL services ?

The same framework is also used for searching SAP NetWeaver Gateway (OData) servers which we could also use/write. The framework is extensible to allow searching for virtually anything, so I think we can reuse this for other things.

> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Ted
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen at redhat.com>
> >> To: "Brian Fitzpatrick" <bfitzpat at redhat.com>
> >> Cc: "Ted Jones" <tejones at redhat.com>,
> >> jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org, "Bill Collins"
> >> <bicollin at redhat.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 11:08:10 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] SAP Services Registry Plugin
> >> 
> >> Yeah - I recall some of the various on/off stories on this.
> >> 
> >> As far as I recall there are two parts.
> >> 
> >> 1) The core search functionality contributed by SAP which can be
> >> used
> >> to provided searching for technically anything.
> >> 
> >> 2) The SAP/UDDi functionality using #1
> >> 
> >> Reading the bugzilla #1 is dead - is that correct ? Meaning if we
> >> want to do #2 we would have to fork it and maintain it ?
> >> 
> >> About #2 is this SAP specific or is it using standard API that
> >> could
> >> work against other service based servers ?
> >> 
> >> Considering the problems of #1 how do actually bundle this without
> >> a
> >> major headache ?
> >> 
> >> /max
> >> 
> >> On 22 Jan 2013, at 15:59, Brian Fitzpatrick <bfitzpat at redhat.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Correct. I worked with Tom Cunningham to use some of the UDDI
> >>> functionality we already had to develop a basic UDDI search view,
> >>> but we didn't get it too far off the ground before SAP decided
> >>> they wanted to go this other direction.
> >>> 
> >>> Ted and Bill Collins were working on the SAP stuff after I
> >>> started
> >>> to work on Switchyard tooling, Bill may know where things are at
> >>> on that front...
> >>> 
> >>> --Fitz
> >>> 
> >>> _______________________________
> >>> Brian Fitzpatrick (aka "Fitz")
> >>> Senior Software Engineer, SOA-P
> >>> JBoss by Red Hat
> >>> 
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Ted Jones" <tejones at redhat.com>
> >>> To: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen at redhat.com>
> >>> Cc: jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 7:22:37 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] SAP Services Registry Plugin
> >>> 
> >>> Max,
> >>> 
> >>> The intention was to have this included as part of Eclipse, but
> >>> SAP
> >>> and Eclipse weren't able to agree on an implementation/design.
> >>> Here is the initial BZ
> >>> (https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=331581#c9) which
> >>> was split off into multiple BZs (see the bottom of this BZ). Fitz
> >>> was involved in the beginning until he was pulled off onto
> >>> another
> >>> project and felt the pain of the disagreements. SAP punted on
> >>> integrating with Eclipse and published the source code for us.
> >>> That's where we stand now.
> >>> 
> >>> Since the search capability is based on UDDI v3, you are correct
> >>> in
> >>> that this is just basic WSDL searching with the additional
> >>> authentication information for connecting to an SAP Services
> >>> Registry. Fitz was actually working on a separate UDDI search
> >>> capability before SAP gave us this.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Ted
> >>> 
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen at redhat.com>
> >>>> To: "Ted Jones" <tejones at redhat.com>
> >>>> Cc: "Rob Cernich" <rcernich at redhat.com>,
> >>>> jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:24:14 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] SAP Services Registry Plugin
> >>>> 
> >>>> Maybe i'm just not grokking this thing but as far as I
> >>>> understand
> >>>> this is
> >>>> just basic WSDL searching (i.e. EAP level) stuff, right ?
> >>>> 
> >>>> That said looking at the source this looks like mostly an
> >>>> eclipse
> >>>> project ? (at least the core search stuff).
> >>>> Did SAP ever get it into eclipse core plans for inclusion ? That
> >>>> would affect how we can bundle/version/release it afaics ?
> >>>> 
> >>>> /max
> >>>> 
> >>>> On 21 Jan 2013, at 16:02, Ted Jones <tejones at redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Thanks for the suggestion Rob. That does sound like a potential
> >>>>> landing spot. I will ping Eric.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thanks again,
> >>>>> Ted
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: "Rob Cernich" <rcernich at redhat.com>
> >>>>>> To: "Ted Jones" <tejones at redhat.com>
> >>>>>> Cc: jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 8:54:21 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] SAP Services Registry Plugin
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Hey Ted,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Have you reached out to any of the folks working on Overlord?
> >>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>> guessing there may be some synergy with the stuff they are
> >>>>>> working
> >>>>>> on.  Here's the link: http://www.jboss.org/overlord
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>> Rob
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> SAP has developed an open-source plugin that allows searching
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>> registry, importing the WSDL for a specific service and
> >>>>>>> viewing
> >>>>>>> other UDDI information about a published service. Max
> >>>>>>> mentioned
> >>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>> should post a message here to see where such a plugin might
> >>>>>>> fit
> >>>>>>> into
> >>>>>>> JBT. It is not quite ready for prime time due to an
> >>>>>>> authentication
> >>>>>>> issue when installed with EGit (really an EGit bug... see
> >>>>>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=377347).
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Read more about the plugin and see a demo here:
> >>>>>>> https://community.jboss.org/blogs/tedjones/2013/01/18/using-the-sap-services-registry-eclipse-plugin-in-jboss-tools
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Ted
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