[jbosstools-dev] JBTIS update site on JBoss Tools web site

Tue May 7 18:21:57 EDT 2013

On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 03:10:06PM -0400, Nick Boldt wrote:
>Internal component URLs? Nope, they're composite site pointers to the
>latest aggregate sites.

yes - so they are internal urls - not stable/public ones (since just pointing to latest published)

>http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/integration/kepler/integration-stack/aggregate/
>
> >>
>http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/integration/juno/integration-stack/aggregate/
>
>
>And an aggregate can only contain ONE site, unless you mean via
><references> in its metadata, to additional upstream sites used to
>resolve missing dependencies (eg., the update site can point at its
>target platform site so that things like UML2 and Zest can be found).

If it only can contain one site why is it called "aggregate" and why should the name contain that ?

>Are you suggesting that
>http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/integration/juno/integration-stack/aggregate/4.0.0
>should not be the latest snapshot for 4.0.0, but rather a composite site
>pointing at the ACTUAL 4.0.0 site? Because if so, that's what
>http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/integration/juno/integration-stack/aggregate/
>is for. Obfuscating it a level further seems redundant.

no, im saying "aggregate" has no meaning here and a simpler/shorter/following our convention for
the jbosstools core site would be more fitting.

like: http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/{development|stable}/{juno|kepler}/integration-stack ?

Paul suggested http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/stable/integration-stack/kepler/
which is doable too. Quesiton is just if we want kepler/* to contain the sites, or if makes more
sense to have the "distro" first. I don't have a big preference here - I just prefer that we are consistent.
This url is also what should be used in central since it is what will be pointed to by users p2 metadata.

WDYT? (these sites can just be pointers to the internal component urls like the "aggregate" sites above assuming 
they dont change - but wether the site is an aggregate or not seems rather irrelevant and noisy to put in the main
urls)

Any issues/concerns on this ?

/max

>
>On 05/07/2013 12:41 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>> On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:15:02AM -0400, Nick Boldt wrote:
>>> Uh, guys... you're reporting & solving a problem that doesn't exist.
>>
>> uh nick - the links below are all "internal component" urls...aggregate
>> can contain multiple sites.
>>
>> Any reason why not to put JBTIS release into the url Paul suggested -
>> this url could of course refer to these
>> "internal" sites (Whichever is appropriate - specific version or the
>> composite/aggregate) ?
>>
>> /max
>>
>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/integration/kepler/integration-stack/aggregate/
>>>
>>> is already a "stable" URL insofar as it contains no version number - it
>>> is a composite site pointing at the latest version, which is currently
>>> 4.1.0 but will be 4.1.1 when/if that happens. Problem already solved.
>>>
>>> Similarly,
>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/integration/juno/integration-stack/aggregate/
>>>
>>> contains no version number - it too is a composite site.
>>>
>>> Thus all you need to do, when you're ready to promote an "integration"
>>> site to a more stable release type, is to copy its contents to a
>>> similarly-patterned URL, such as:
>>>
>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/*development*/juno/integration-stack/aggregate/
>>>
>>>   or
>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/*stable*/juno/integration-stack/aggregate/
>>>
>>>
>>> And voila, you're released!
>>>
>>> THEN... you link to the *development* or *stable* URL from
>>> http://jboss.org/tools, and the world comes to visit.
>>>
>>> N
>>>
>>> On 05/07/2013 08:49 AM, Paul Leacu wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hey Max -
>>>>         You're correct - I just got write permissions to 'staging'
>>>> this week.  I'm thinking of:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/stable/integration-stack/kepler/...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     for the stable location.  Then we'll deploy the .Final to the
>>>> nexus staging area and then to release.
>>>>     As for the juno update site - since we're now targeting SOA-P 6.0
>>>> beta (kepler) the existing
>>>>     url will very likely be the only one.  For kepler we'll have both
>>>> the aggregated target platform (.target)
>>>>     file and JBTIS 4.1.0 captured.
>>>>
>>>>    --paull
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <manderse at redhat.com>
>>>>> To: "Andrej Podhradsky" <apodhrad at redhat.com>
>>>>> Cc: "jbosstools-dev jbosstools-dev"
>>>>> <jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org>, "Paul Leacu" <pleacu at redhat.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 8:16:18 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] JBTIS update site on JBoss Tools web site
>>>>>
>>>>>> at JBoss Tools web page [1] you can see an obsolete update site for
>>>>>> SOA/JBTIS tooling [2].
>>>>>> I suggest to change it to the current JBTIS update site [3] which
>>>>>> contains
>>>>>> updated tools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://www.jboss.org/tools/download
>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/nightly/soa-tooling/trunk
>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/integration/juno/integration-stack/aggregate/4.0.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [3] is a version specific site - we need to get a stable url to use
>>>>> before
>>>>> publishing to users.
>>>>>
>>>>> i.e. when 4.0.1 comes out 4.0.0 won't contain the right version.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul - any progress on getting a stable url ?
>>>>>
>>>>> /max
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have a nice day!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andrej Podhradsky
>>>>>> Quality Assurance Associate
>>>>>> JBoss SOA Platform
>>>>>> IRC: apodhrad at #jbossqa #jbosssoa #jbosssoaqa #devstudio-qa #brno
>>>>>>
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