[jbosstools-dev] [epp-dev] Heads Up and some action requested : TCF Terminals Moving to TM
Rob Stryker
rstryker at redhat.com
Fri Apr 10 03:22:30 EDT 2015
I've already verified that it should not affect ASTools at all really
since ASTools uses a simple messageconsole to display our remote launch
sysouts.
I have not had time to investigate this as it pertains to Fuse, but I've
been convinced for several months already that Fuse needs to simply
trash what they have for terminal support and write a new solution from
scratch.
On 04/09/2015 01:41 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
> Rob/Lars - have you had time to look at this and how much if anything it
> affects us ?
>
> /max
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I believe this will end up affecting us too.
>>
>> Opened jira for this: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-3384
>>
>> For most this is just a repackaging that don't affect code, but for
>> Fuse
>> Tooling
>> which currently rely on org.eclipse.tm.internal.terminal this will
>> require changes.
>>
>>
>> /max
>> http://about.me/maxandersen
>> Forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Oberhuber, Martin <Martin.Oberhuber at windriver.com>
>>> To: Eclipse Packaging Project <epp-dev at eclipse.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [epp-dev] Heads Up and some action requested : TCF
>>> Terminals Moving to TM
>>> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:54:07 +0000
>>>
>>> Hi Package Maintainers,
>>>
>>> We have been convinced that contributing from TCF under a foreign
>>> namespace is not a good idea.
>>> On the other hand, the deprecated legacy terminal view has already
>>> been removed from the simrel:
>>> http://git.eclipse.org/c/simrel/org.eclipse.simrel.build.git/commit/?id=d677d5a6ae094bb2d1a7136be9d5b1d84c62740d
>>>
>>> This means there is now some action strongly suggested, or packages
>>> might fail to build or build against outdated (M5) terminal
>>> contributions:
>>>
>>> - jee : Remove legacy terminal.view , optionally add the new
>>> tcf.terminals.view - Bug
>>> 462087<https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=462087>
>>>
>>> - reporting : Remove legacy terminal.view , optionally add
>>> the new tcf.terminals.view - Bug
>>> 462089<https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=462089>
>>>
>>> - parallel : Optionally add
>>> org.eclipse.tcf.te.terminals.feature AND
>>> org.eclipse.tcf.te.terminals.rse.feature
>>>
>>> - cpp : Optionally add org.eclipse.tcf.te.terminals.feature
>>> AND org.eclipse.tcf.te.terminals.rse.feature
>>>
>>> For the must-have changes in jee and reporting, we have created bugs
>>> and Gerrit changesets.
>>> Since I am an epp committer, I think I could apply these for you, but
>>> I would like the package maintainer's OK before I do that.
>>>
>>> I would strongly recommend also applying the optional changes (adding
>>> the TCF Terminals View) such that users can see the new view and
>>> provide feedback.
>>> Without doing this, the Terminal view would be GONE in the respective
>>> packages in M6 and only reappear in M7 once the move has been
>>> completed.
>>> I can also apply these changes for you if I get your OK.
>>>
>>> Please let me know how you want to proceed, and if there's any
>>> questions/concerns !
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Martin
>>> --
>>> Martin Oberhuber, SMTS / Product Owner - Development Tools, Wind
>>> River
>>> direct +43.662.457915.85 fax +43.662.457915.6
>>>
>>> From: epp-dev-bounces at eclipse.org
>>> [mailto:epp-dev-bounces at eclipse.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin
>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 6:17 PM
>>> To: EPP Developer Mailing List (epp-dev at eclipse.org)
>>> Subject: [epp-dev] Heads Up and some action requested : TCF Terminals
>>> Moving to TM
>>>
>>> Hi Package Maintainers,
>>>
>>> You might be aware that based on the original TM Terminal view, the
>>> TCF Project has come up with a much enhanced terminal:
>>> https://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/tcf-terminals
>>>
>>> In order to simplify code adoption and contributions, we want to
>>> restructure the codebase and re-unite it with the original TM
>>> codebase.
>>> The result will be called "TM Terminal 4.0" but will contain the
>>> related TM _and_ TCF code in a single, small git repository.
>>> Here is the respective restructuring review:
>>> https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/tools.cdt.tcf/reviews/move-tcf-terminals-code-tm-project
>>>
>>> Now unfortunately the review is scheduled to complete by April 1
>>> which
>>> is after M6, but we would like to give adopters
>>> a preview of the new Terminal with M6 in order to get more feedback.
>>> Thus here's what we are planning:
>>>
>>> - The TM project will no longer contribute its
>>> org.eclipse.tm.terminal.* to the simrel
>>>
>>> - Instead, the TCF project will contribute
>>> org.eclpse.tm.terminal.*_4.0 to the simrel (already using the *new*
>>> namespace).
>>>
>>> This affects the "jee" and "reporting" packages which currently
>>> directly use those features:
>>>
>>> org.eclipse.epp.packages/packages>grep org.eclipse.tm.terminal
>>> */feature.xml
>>> org.eclipse.epp.package.jee.feature/feature.xml: <import
>>> feature="org.eclipse.tm.terminal"/>
>>> org.eclipse.epp.package.jee.feature/feature.xml: <import
>>> feature="org.eclipse.tm.terminal.ssh"/>
>>> org.eclipse.epp.package.jee.feature/feature.xml: <import
>>> feature="org.eclipse.tm.terminal.telnet"/>
>>> org.eclipse.epp.package.jee.feature/feature.xml: <import
>>> feature="org.eclipse.tm.terminal.view"/>
>>> org.eclipse.epp.package.reporting.feature/feature.xml: <import
>>> feature="org.eclipse.tm.terminal"/>
>>> org.eclipse.epp.package.reporting.feature/feature.xml: <import
>>> feature="org.eclipse.tm.terminal.ssh"/>
>>> org.eclipse.epp.package.reporting.feature/feature.xml: <import
>>> feature="org.eclipse.tm.terminal.telnet"/>
>>> org.eclipse.epp.package.reporting.feature/feature.xml: <import
>>> feature="org.eclipse.tm.terminal.view"/>
>>>
>>> If you do not take any action, you will simply see the new "4.0"
>>> version of those features from TCF, giving you the new tabbed
>>> terminal
>>> view.
>>> If you want, you can take the following two actions as soon as TCF
>>> starts contributing the new namespace:
>>>
>>> - You may REMOVE "org.eclipse.tm.terminal" since that
>>> feature
>>> is auto-required by "org.eclipse.tm.terminal.view" ; that would allow
>>> updating the widget without updating the view in the future.
>>>
>>> - You may ADD "org.eclipse.tm.terminal.local" since that
>>> feature gives you the new local terminal (console) prompt
>>>
>>> - You may want to set the minimum version range to 4.0 to
>>> ensure you get the new features
>>>
>>> - You may want to review the terminal whether it fits your
>>> needs and provide feedback.
>>>
>>> Of course other packages are more than welcome to also consume the
>>> new
>>> Terminal - all relevant docs are in the marketplace entry cited
>>> above.
>>>
>>> For now this is just a heads up;
>>> We are planning to add the new "TM Namespace" features to the TCF
>>> simrel contribution over the course of the week.
>>> I will send another notification once the new features are available.
>>>
>>> Please let me know of any concerns or questions !
>>> Or comment directly on the Move Review if you want.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Martin
>>> --
>>> Martin Oberhuber, SMTS / Product Owner - Development Tools, Wind
>>> River
>>> direct +43.662.457915.85 fax +43.662.457915.6
>>>
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