[jbosstools-dev] Question on data virtualization runtimes and where downloadRuntime support belongs

[Rob Stryker]

After some discussion with PGR, we think it makes more sense for the 
detection to live in the Teiid Designer repository.

Teiid Designer currently only has code for detecting teiid in *running* 
servers, with no support for identifying a Teiid installation in servers 
that aren't running.  This makes sense for their use case (server may be 
remote) but is not useful for runtime detection at all.

TD currently is not involved in the server creation at all, but rather 
just adds listeners so that once a server is added, or started, they can 
begin their configuration / build up their model. They also provide 
editor extensions that allow setting fields on the IServerWorkingCopy.

*Barry*:   One thing that would help tremendously with identifying 
installations in non-running local servers is if I could have a map of 
Teiid / DV releases and what underlying JBoss / Wildfly / EAP versions 
they correspond to. What I've heard so far is that Teiid 7.x was based 
on JBoss 5, while the 8.x stream is for AS7.  It's pretty important to 
get a full mapping of supported releases to their underlying JBoss 
version, though. This way I can properly implement the Server Bean 
Loaders / Runtime detection.

One final thing to note, which I think we should bring up to the Teiid 
runtime team directly, is that DV product properly uses the layer system 
in JBoss 7.  It has the expected 
org/jboss/as/product/dv/dir/META-INF/MANIFEST.MF file,  with the 
expected attribute JBoss-Product-Release-Version: 6.1.0...

But the community releases of Teiid *do not*.  They simply put 
everything in modules/system/layers/base, with no clear way of 
identifying a version. If I wanted to look at the version here, I'd need 
to introspect 
teiid-8.10.0.Final/modules/system/layers/base/org/jboss/teiid/api/main/teiid-api-8.10.0.Final.jar 
and look at it's manifest.mf for the Bundle-Version,  which so far seems 
accurate.

With all this in mind, it should be relatively painless (once I get that 
version mapping from Barry) to get runtime detection + downloading 
supported for Teiid Runtime / DV.   There may be some issues in 
stacks.yaml  (since I'm not too familiar with all the bom stuff) but I 
expect the version mapping will help me to properly pull from other 
parts of stacks.yaml without issue.

- Rob Stryker

- Rob Stryker
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