[jbosstools-dev] [Soa-tools-list] Proposed change for JBTIS target platform - 4.2.1.Final/ 4.2.1.EA

[Max Rydahl Andersen]

On 28 Jan 2015, at 18:49, Paul Leacu wrote:

> Okay - I'm in complete agreement that bpel/ bpmn2 modeler should 
> migrate out of the JBTIS
> TP but it will take time for the existing tools which rely on it 
> (SwitchYard + ??) to change.
> So - since this is for a CR2 IS release (soon to be .Final/.GA) and a 
> .Final/EA TP release -
> let me propose the following:
>
> 1.  I create a Jira for the removal of bpel/ bpmn2 modeler from the 
> JBTIS TP.

since it seem to continue being a "problem" with bpel/bpmn2 to update 
then this sounds like current best way forward.

> 2.  We go ahead with the JBTIS TP split as specified in JBTIS-382 so 
> we can get CR2 to QE for JDV.

split need to happen so yes - just lets not mix up the version naming.

/max


> If we find other dependent features that are pre-release we can 
> continue with the split TP
> theme.
>
> Agreed?
>
> Thanks for the feedback,
>          --paull
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <manderse at redhat.com>
>> To: "Paul Leacu" <pleacu at redhat.com>
>> Cc: jbds-is-pm-list at redhat.com, "soa-tools-list" 
>> <soa-tools-list at redhat.com>, "jbosstools-dev jbosstools-dev"
>> <jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:21:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Soa-tools-list] Proposed change for JBTIS target 
>> platform - 4.2.1.Final/ 4.2.1.EA
>>
>> On 28 Jan 2015, at 17:04, Paul Leacu wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Max -
>>>  The BPMN2 Modeler and BPEL appear in both the JBTIS TP and as p2
>>> update site components.
>>
>> okey - but both BPMN2 and BPEL is part of community release too so 
>> i'm
>> confused why called product only ;)
>>
>>> Your statement below is really the principle issue:
>>
>>>
>>>> I believe this change is done to ensure we don't leak in bad
>>>> dependencies between
>>>> the earlyaccess site that exists in both community and product
>>>> shipment.
>>>
>>> --paull
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <manderse at redhat.com>
>>>> To: "Paul Leacu" <pleacu at redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: "Rob Cernich" <rcernich at redhat.com>, "soa-tools-list"
>>>> <soa-tools-list at redhat.com>, jbds-is-pm-list at redhat.com,
>>>> "jbosstools-dev jbosstools-dev" <jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:25:18 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Soa-tools-list] Proposed change for JBTIS target
>>>> platform - 4.2.1.Final/ 4.2.1.EA
>>>>
>>>> i'm a bit confused what is it you consider product bits in the TP
>>>> here ?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not seeing any in here - am I missing something ?
>>>>
>>>> I believe this change is done to ensure we don't leak in bad
>>>> dependencies between
>>>> the earlyaccess site that exists in both community and product
>>>> shipment.
>>>>
>>>> /max
>>>>> Hey Rob,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd love to remove product bits from the TP but that hasn't
>>>>> happened.
>>>>> Having
>>>>> a release based JBTIS TP that is guaranteed to have only .Final
>>>>> components and
>>>>> then having an early-access TP seems to give component developers
>>>>> the
>>>>> option of
>>>>> adding non fully released dependencies that are not our own 
>>>>> product
>>>>> bits while
>>>>> their component is still in Beta.
>>>>>
>>>>> The TPs are identical (JBTIS TP/ JBDSIS TP) - component developers
>>>>> could use either
>>>>> with 4.2.1.EA being the full set of dependencies.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can revisit removing the JBoss product bits from the TP but for
>>>>> the
>>>>> JDV release
>>>>> this change removes uncategorized non .Final bits that's needed 
>>>>> now.
>>>>>
>>>>> --paull
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Rob Cernich" <rcernich at redhat.com>
>>>>>> To: "Paul Leacu" <pleacu at redhat.com>
>>>>>> Cc: jbds-is-pm-list at redhat.com, "soa-tools-list"
>>>>>> <soa-tools-list at redhat.com>, "jbosstools-dev jbosstools-dev"
>>>>>> <jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:32:26 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Soa-tools-list] Proposed change for JBTIS target
>>>>>> platform -	4.2.1.Final/ 4.2.1.EA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the better solution is to remove product bits from the TP
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> them included directly through the site/p2 repo.  Splitting up 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> TP
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> likely to cause issues down, especially as versions change.  
>>>>>> Also,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> assume
>>>>>> this is for product bits and not community bits (i.e. JBDS-IS vs
>>>>>> JBTIS).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings -
>>>>>>> A proposal to change the JBTIS target platform is described 
>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBTIS-382
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PR:
>>>>>>> https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-integration-stack/pull/280
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Synopsis:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Split the JBTIS target platform along release/final and
>>>>>>> non-release/early access lines
>>>>>>> so as to not expose non .Final features to the stable capture
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> appears when performing
>>>>>>> an 'uncategorized' install.  No dependent component version
>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> 4.2.0.Final.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/targetplatforms/jbtistarget/4.2.1.Final/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/targetplatforms/jbtistarget/4.2.1.EA/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please respond by COB on Thursday, Jan 29 to the specified Jira 
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> are any issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> --paull
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Soa-tools-list mailing list
>>>>>>> Soa-tools-list at redhat.com
>>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/soa-tools-list
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> /max
>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen
>>>>
>>
>>
>> /max
>> http://about.me/maxandersen
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Soa-tools-list mailing list
> Soa-tools-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/soa-tools-list


/max
http://about.me/maxandersen