[jbosstools-dev] [m2e-wtp] Workaround or new release or patched plugin?

Fri Aug 26 15:56:12 EDT 2016

Yes to all of you. Just one point and that is No matter what technical solution is done this kind of "cross-updating" that affects both side deserves mention on 5x5 but even then make QE aware of it with proposals to what part of devstudio should be given a hopeful quick test using the tp update from is.

P.S. Paul/alexey, this situation is funny enough exactly the thing would rarely happen when talking about limits of the rPM approach. I.e. Users on rpm would not get this update. 

/max
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> On 26 Aug 2016, at 16:07, Alexey Kazakov <alkazako at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> If it works for you guys then I would keep this update in the IS TP only for Mars. And sure, it's needed to be tested if works fine with JBDS when installed. 
> Thanks.
> 
>> On 08/26/2016 06:53 AM, Aurelien Pupier wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> having it in the IS only is fine for me but keep it mind that after Fuse Tooling is installed, the new plugin will be used by all other JBDS plugins as the version will be higher.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Nick Boldt <nboldt at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> If we need to update the Mars TP, or simply add another child URL into
>>> the devstudio 9.x download site (which contains the m2e-wtp update) we
>>> can do so. We could also add a connector to Central to announce this
>>> patch/fix is available so everyone with JBT 4.3.x / devstudio 9.x sees
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> All I said was that no release was currently PLANNED.
>>> 
>>> If we need to fix this for jbt 4.3 / devstudio 9.x (rather than just
>>> fixing it in the IS releases), then that should be brought to the 5x5
>>> call, and scheduled, so that PgM is aware of this need and its impact
>>> on devsudio 10.x scheduling. I leave making such a decision to
>>> project/program managers, and will react to any JIRAs of sufficient
>>> urgency/priority should they cross my desk.
>>> 
>>> TL;DR: "if you want it in jbosstools 4.3 / devstudio 9.x, open a
>>> Trello card + JIRA issue w/ PgM approval".
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Paul Leacu <pleacu at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >    Hey Max -
>>> >        I think it's okay to add this to the IS TP for Mars and then the core JBT TP for Neon.  That
>>> >    gives us both a near term solution to the issue for Fuse Tooling and the correct long term solution.
>>> >    QE should catch any base devstudio/ jbosstools issues - I do appreciate the support!
>>> >
>>> >            --paull
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <manderse at redhat.com>
>>> >> To: "Nick Boldt" <nboldt at redhat.com>
>>> >> Cc: "Aurelien Pupier" <apupier at redhat.com>, "Fred Bricon" <fbricon at redhat.com>, jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org, "Paul
>>> >> Leacu" <pleacu at redhat.com>
>>> >> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 7:16:10 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] [m2e-wtp] Workaround or new release or patched plugin?
>>> >>
>>> >> On 25 Aug 2016, at 19:14, Nick Boldt wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Some background: I sent Aurelien here when I saw him mention he was
>>> >> pondering doing a feature patch
>>> >> and I said I'm sure we as maintainers of m2e-wtp and the one including
>>> >> it in the base could do better than that.
>>> >>
>>> >> > Just realized this is for Mars, not Neon.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > There's no plan to release a new devstudio or jbosstools release for
>>> >> > Mars, so even if I update the TP that won't automatically get into the
>>> >> > Integration Stack.
>>> >>
>>> >> We always said JBoss Tools/Devstudio would react to emergency releases
>>> >> if IS needs it.
>>> >> Thus saying a release is not planned then that is not a valid reason if
>>> >> it is the only one.
>>> >>
>>> >> Can we not do a basic TP update without a big overhead ?
>>> >>
>>> >> > Perhaps the better solution here is to have Paul pull in the updated
>>> >> > bits to the IS TP.
>>> >>
>>> >> Please remember that even if this is put into the IS TP then it affects
>>> >> base devstudio and jbosstools too.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thus some basic testing/verification would be relevant for
>>> >> jbosstools/devstudio no matter
>>> >> if the update is put in base TP or in IS TP.
>>> >>
>>> >> /max
>>> >>
>>> >> > Paul, WDYT?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Aurelien Pupier <apupier at redhat.com>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> I created a new JIRA issue following the pattern in the right
>>> >> >> project:
>>> >> >> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-23044
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I still cannot assign the issue to you.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Aurelien Pupier <apupier at redhat.com>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Hi Nick,
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> thanks for the answer, I created a JIRA for you but I don't have the
>>> >> >>> right
>>> >> >>> to assign it: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-4018
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Please notice that it is for the Mars-based Target Platform.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> regards,
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Nick Boldt <nboldt at redhat.com>
>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Standard process is:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> a) open a JIRA, assigned to me
>>> >> >>>> b) ping me if I haven't responded within a day or two, or if urgent
>>> >> >>>> c) if the issue is raised BEFORE the target platform freeze (Aug
>>> >> >>>> 31)
>>> >> >>>> it can be resolved on/before that date.
>>> >> >>>> d) if the issue is raised after the target platform freeze, it
>>> >> >>>> requires escalation/approval from Alexey as it jeopardizes the code
>>> >> >>>> freeze on Sept 1.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> So the short answer is "I can do it next week, on/before Aug 31,
>>> >> >>>> unless you need it sooner."
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Fred Bricon <fbricon at redhat.com>
>>> >> >>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>> So we could cut a m2e-wtp 1.2.2 release, but you'd need to provide
>>> >> >>>>> a
>>> >> >>>>> patch
>>> >> >>>>> that doesn't use java 1.8. I'll most likely be able to do it on
>>> >> >>>>> saturday or
>>> >> >>>>> monday. Then it depends when can Nick mirror it
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Aurelien Pupier
>>> >> >>>>> <apupier at redhat.com>
>>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> Hello all,
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> I hit this issue today
>>> >> >>>>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=500197
>>> >> >>>>>> "WTPProjectsUtil.removeConflictingFacets(IFacetedProject,
>>> >> >>>>>> IProjectFacetVersion, Set<Action>) is not taking care of actions
>>> >> >>>>>> given
>>> >> >>>>>> as
>>> >> >>>>>> parameter"
>>> >> >>>>>> I provided a fix proposal: https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/79617/
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> I detected it while writing an integration test. While playing
>>> >> >>>>>> manually, i
>>> >> >>>>>> think that some jobs are not played at the same time and it works
>>> >> >>>>>> *almost*
>>> >> >>>>>> every time.
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> I'm wondering if someone has an idea for a workaround to this
>>> >> >>>>>> issue.
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> If not, is it possible to create a new release? What is the
>>> >> >>>>>> timeframe
>>> >> >>>>>> for
>>> >> >>>>>> that? The goal is to be able to use it in Fuse Tooling 8.0.0; The
>>> >> >>>>>> current
>>> >> >>>>>> code freeze date is the 29th August (which is very very close).
>>> >> >>>>>> This
>>> >> >>>>>> version
>>> >> >>>>>> is based on JBDS 9.1 (Eclipse Mars)
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> If not possible, do you have an idea of the impact of creating a
>>> >> >>>>>> patch
>>> >> >>>>>> plugin for org.eclipse.m2e.wtp inside Fuse Tooling based on the
>>> >> >>>>>> content of
>>> >> >>>>>> provided gerrit change proposal
>>> >> >>>>>> https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/79617/
>>> >> >>>>>> I'm aware that all others JBDS and JBDIS features will be
>>> >> >>>>>> "affected"
>>> >> >>>>>> by
>>> >> >>>>>> this patched plugin if Fuse Tooling is installed.
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> Regards,
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> --
>>> >> >>>>>> Aurelien Pupier
>>> >> >>>>>> Senior Software Engineer in JBoss Fuse Tooling team
>>> >> >>>>>> @apupier
>>> >> >>>>>>
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>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
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>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> --
>>> >> >>>> Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat
>>> >> >>>> Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio
>>> >> >>>> http://nick.divbyzero.com
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> --
>>> >> >>> Aurelien Pupier
>>> >> >>> Senior Software Engineer in JBoss Fuse Tooling team
>>> >> >>> @apupier
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >> Aurelien Pupier
>>> >> >> Senior Software Engineer in JBoss Fuse Tooling team
>>> >> >> @apupier
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat
>>> >> > Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio
>>> >> > http://nick.divbyzero.com
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>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> /max
>>> >> http://about.me/maxandersen
>>> >>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat
>>> Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio
>>> http://nick.divbyzero.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Aurelien Pupier
>> Senior Software Engineer in JBoss Fuse Tooling team
>> @apupier
>> 
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