[jbosstools-issues] [JBoss JIRA] (JBDS-3093) shold we allow users to install updates to features provide by devstudio

Mustafa Musaji (JIRA) issues at jboss.org
Thu Jul 17 04:20:31 EDT 2014


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Mustafa Musaji commented on JBDS-3093:
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I agree to all of the above

A) Yes
B) Yes
C) Yes

... with a warning that running these features in early access mode is not supported. 

[~maxandersen][~nickboldt] Will/Could there be an option to roll back that feature or is that dependant on the feature being installed? That would be a big bonus.

To be clear, this is completely different from JBDS-3085 where we were discussing the upgrade of the whole product so as far as support goes, this is fine. My concern is still an early access feature breaking something else and not being able to roll back. I understand the whole point of early access is that it might break but really, customers shouldn't have to pay the price for trying out new things. If we can mitigate against this by adding a roll back feature it would be much better.

> shold we allow users to install updates to features provide by devstudio
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: JBDS-3093
>                 URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBDS-3093
>             Project: Developer Studio (JBoss Developer Studio)
>          Issue Type: Enhancement
>      Security Level: Public(Everyone can see) 
>          Components: central, updatesite
>            Reporter: Nick Boldt
>            Assignee: Max Rydahl Andersen
>
> This is continuation of JBDS-3009 which was discussing full updates of devstudio that made everyone focus on old limitations. 
> Thus lets discuss how far we are ok (in principle/not technical terms) early access goes
> A) in principle - are you ok we provide functionallity in devstudio to install additional early access features ?
> I assume YES because that is what the early access feature does that everyone was fine with before.
> B) in principle - are you ok we provide functionallity in devstudio to install early access features of things that are in addition to the default installed parts (i.e. not part of core, things like hybrid mobile tools ? )
> I assume YES since this has zero technical difference from A
> C) in principle - are you ok we provide functionallity in devstudio to install early access features of things that are part of the base install (i.e. we provide an early access of devstudio that has updates to hibernate tools and jaxrs that supports JavaEE 7 better - just as example) ?
> I hear you say NO to this even though it is EXACTLY the same mechanism we need to provide install/rollbacks for the above - we just don't have that in place yet but that IS doable to do if we choose to do so and make it clear what is installed (see
> But if you cannot even agree to it by principle then any technical discussion is pointless.
> Thus can you give Yes/No answers to the above please ?
> My answers are:
> A) Yes
> B) Yes
> C) Yes
> ...all with the assumption we make it clear that once you do this you are running in "early access" mode.
> For me there is zero difference between A/B/C if done properly. And of course we should not do any of these blindly and without ensuring it is as smooth as possible but the mere definition of "early access" is : "You install this on your own risk - please don't expect things to work completely fine afterwards".



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