[jbosstools-issues] [JBoss JIRA] (JBIDE-21105) Deprecate BIRT

[Max Rydahl Andersen (JIRA)]

    [ https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-21105?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13133539#comment-13133539 ] 

Max Rydahl Andersen commented on JBIDE-21105:
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> Max, do you mean take over the JBT Birt tooling, as a contribution to the Eclipse BIRT project? 

 I don't care where it is as long it is something we don't have to spend time on adjusting for.

"As I tried to explain 4 days ago, the time was already spent last week. It builds, it's in the 4.60.x TP"

Yes, so let us please stop asking for more things to move (i.e. konstantin trying to fix jetty issues caused by Birt) here before we got the questions answered. The TP would be afaics be better of without Birt.

a) there is no testing for JBoss Tools Birt afaik. 
b) JBoss Tools Birt have never been included in JBDS. 
c) again, don't understand why you are mixing in JBDS in this. JBoss Tools Birt never been there. if it is  that is a problem.

Wether Birt need to be in JBDS / JBT TP might be relevant for integrationstack - I believe Data Virtualization might use something but for now i'm focused on figuring out if we want/need JBoss Tools Birt first.

My suggestion is no; and then afaik we don't have a need for birt in JBT TP at this time.

DV/Teiid might want /need it.



> Deprecate BIRT
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>
>                 Key: JBIDE-21105
>                 URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-21105
>             Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: birt, target-platform
>    Affects Versions: 4.4.0.Alpha1
>            Reporter: Nick Boldt
>            Assignee: Nick Boldt
>             Fix For: 4.4.0.Alpha1
>
>         Attachments: birt-4.5-vs-mars-interim.txt, birt-4.5-vs-mars-interim_summary.txt, birt-depends-on-jetty-deploy-929.png, birt-depends-on-jetty-osgi-boot-929.png, birt-wizard-new-library.png, birt-wizard-new-library__NEON.png, birt-wizards.png, birt-wizards__NEON.png, eclipse-after-birt.png, install-jboss-birt-sites.png, install-jboss-birt-sites__NEON.png, install-jboss-birt.png, install-jboss-birt__NEON.png
>
>
> {quote}
> (2015-11-17 11:42:50) kmarmaliykov: nickboldt: I look into neon M3 and see that there is no jetty 9.2.9 there
> (2015-11-17 11:43:18) nickboldt: kmarmaliykov: yes, 9.2.9 is from Birt site
> (2015-11-17 11:43:21) nickboldt: because Birt needs it
> (2015-11-17 11:43:33) nickboldt: but there's no Birt for Neon yet so we have to include the Birt for Mars
> (2015-11-17 11:43:37) maxandersen: nickboldt: akazakov: are you talking about having birt in Neon ? 
> (2015-11-17 11:43:44) maxandersen: afaik birt is dead.
> (2015-11-17 11:43:53) maxandersen: won't participate in neon release afaik.
> (2015-11-17 11:43:56) nickboldt: maxandersen: so we should remove birt from JBT 4.4?
> (2015-11-17 11:44:24) maxandersen: well, check first if birt is actually in neon. if it is not the decision is very easy.
> (2015-11-17 11:44:38) akazakov: +1
> (2015-11-17 11:45:36) maxandersen: if it is in, then lets talk options. but if birt requires us to jump through too many hoops its not worth keeping it in.
> (2015-11-17 11:45:55) nickboldt: birt 4.5.0.v201506092134 is in Neon from 201511131000 (M3) - http://download.eclipse.org/releases/neon/201511131000/
> (2015-11-17 11:47:08) nickboldt: and there's a newer birt 4.5.0.v201510231925 (same major.minor.service, newer datestamp) in http://download.eclipse.org/birt/update-site/mars-interim/ 
> {quote}
> So, yesterday as part of updates for JBIDE-20976, I pulled a new BIRT mirror here:
> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/requirements/birt/4.5.0.v201510231925/
> But we could also just use the old one from Mars.0:
> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/requirements/birt/4.5.0.v201506092134/
> Or we could remove support for BIRT and its webtools / charting integration entirely from JBT 4.4.0.Alpha1, since as Max says BIRT is at EOL.
> *DISCUSS*.
> *Alexey Kazakov:* I changed the title from "Remove Birt?" to "Deprecate Birt" as we agreed to deprecate/sunset it for JBDS 10 / JBT 4.4 / Neon.



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