[jbosstools-issues] [JBoss JIRA] (JBIDE-20100) how to make users aware of fuse and other tooling only being available from earlyaccess?

[Mickael Istria (JIRA)]

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Mickael Istria commented on JBIDE-20100:
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{quote}a) I assume the dialog does not show up if there is just one connector available and it is GA'ed (non-early access), right ?{quote}
yes
{quote}b) it should automatically select an option - I suggest the supported version and after that what user chose last.
c) earlyaccess should not be the first item in the list.{quote}
right for both, I'll integrate that in the PR.
{quote}d) how do I disable earlyaccess so it will remove the EA updatesite from the list of updatesites it will look at ?{quote}
The link "Manage Early-Access" shows the installation page for which I submitted 2 screenshots here. On this page, user can see the Early-Access content they install and have the opportunity to disable it (remove features and repositories).

{quote}Once you have installed something from early access the earlyaccess updatesite is added to your jbds install and thus the choice you have here really does not guarantee you that the GA bits will be installed over what is in the earlyaccess. IMO, once a user the first time have said yes to earlyaccess and thus enabled earlyaccess he don't really have a choice anymore until he disables it.{quote}
And vice-versa, the fact that you have some Early-Access repositories enabled doesn't guarantee that when installing a connector, you get the Early-Access version of its features/plugins.
With our current implementation of Central and the connectors we have, the same feature isn't available in 2 different versions, what makes the difference is which features are installed by the GA version vs the EA one. In such case we have the guarantee that installing a GA connector doesn't install the EA additions.
Note that you comment is as true/false with the current implementation, so it's not a consequence of this UI change.


{quote}About the making JBDS users aware of using older JBDS - that was the main issue in this jira{quote}
I've read the first few lines of this Jira over and over again, and the main issue if that Fuse doesn't appear unless user think by themselves of enabling EA.  The description doesn't even mention anything about older JBDS. It's more your mind which is focused on that part than the initial user request.

{quote}But I'm able to perform smoke tests (installation and key functionalities) on Mars TP, if it is needed.{quote}
To me, this means that we can put current Fuse IDE as an "Early Access" connector in JBDS 9. When developing Early-Access, it was exactly the purpose.


> how to make users aware of fuse and other tooling only being available from earlyaccess? 
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>                 Key: JBIDE-20100
>                 URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20100
>             Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: central
>            Reporter: Max Rydahl Andersen
>            Assignee: Mickael Istria
>             Fix For: 4.3.0.CR1
>
>         Attachments: JBIDE-20100-2.png
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> [~jtyrrell] find it confusing when he cannot see Fuse and other earlyaccess features immediately on the install page.
> Some comments:
> "I install JBDS 8.1 and click on the JBoss Integration and SOA Development, but where is the Fuse tooling in that list."
> "<without earlyaccess> why doesn’t my screen shot tell me to use an older version of JBDS or something."
> Suggestion:
> "when I picked the Integration Stack a greyed out Fuse IDE thingy in the list of choices, and something like (Select early Access) to enable this feature."
> I'm fine exploring options to show early access features more prominently but would prefer we would not need to treat Fuse "special" so maybe we should have a "Early Access" section at the bottom instead of filtered in between everything else ? 
> and for any connectors that has additional/different features just add a "Extra features available in Early access " comment ? 
> But what to do when Fuse or others dont even have an earlyaccess out yet ? (like is currently the state for devstudio 9)
> [~crobson], [~aileenc] and [~lhein] got any suggestions ?



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