[jsr-314-open-mirror] [jsr-314-open] ANNOUNCE: JSF 2.1 Spec, Release Candidate Five

Fri Nov 5 19:37:55 EDT 2010

Just to chime in further on the continued presence of <h:html> and 
<h:title>, as Andy said, in addition to just pointlessly bloating the 
specification, having <h:html> act as a resource relocation target seems 
just plain wrong.

-- Blake Sullivan

On 11/5/10 11:53 AM, Andy Schwartz wrote:
> On 11/5/10 2:32 PM, Ed Burns wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:33:29 -0700, Ed Burns 
>>>>>>> <edward.burns at oracle.com> said:
>>
>>     The unprefixed namespace, also known as the root namespace, must be
>>     passed through without modification or check for validity. The
>>     passing through of the root namespace must occur on any non-prefixed
>>     element in a facelet page.
>
> Sounds good.  (Sounds like we are just specifying behavior that 
> Faclets has always implemented, right?)
>
> BTW, I see that we still have <h:html> and <h:title> components in the 
> latest spec.  I haven't seen an explanation for why this are 
> necessary/useful.  When I asked about this, you mentioned that 
> <h:html> was useful as a resource target.  However, it is not.  From 
> our earlier thread:
>
>> I see.  Unfortunately this approach is flawed.  The <html> element 
>> may only contain <head> and <body> elements.  As such, "html" is not 
>> a valid target for resource relocation.  We need to remove this new 
>> requirement from the 2.1 specification.
>>
>> If <h:html> cannot serve as a resource target and if <html> is a 
>> valid element in XML processing mode, I am still unclear on the value 
>> of <h:html> and wonder whether this should be included in the 2.1 
>> specification.
>>
>> On a related note, what's up with <h:title>? :-)   Can we kill this 
>> off?  Or is there some reason why folks would need to use this 
>> instead of <title>? 
>
> I don't remember seeing a response to this, though with all of the 
> emails lately, I may have missed it.
>
> I still do not understand why our users would use <h:html> and 
> <h:title> over <html> and <title>.  If we don't have a strong reason 
> for why these components are useful, we should remove these from the 
> specification in order to avoid spec/component bloat.
>
> Andy
>
>