[keycloak-dev] Password resetting

[Stian Thorgersen]

How about for user / credential page we display the following buttons:

* Send password reset - visible if user has email registered, should this be only for verified email?)
* Set temporary password - opens a modal panel where admin can insert a password or have one generated
* Remove totp - if realm requires totp user will be asked to re-config on next login, otherwise user would have to go to acct mngmt to enable

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Burke" <bburke at redhat.com>
> To: "Stian Thorgersen" <stian at redhat.com>
> Cc: keycloak-dev at lists.jboss.org
> Sent: Friday, 24 January, 2014 3:29:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [keycloak-dev] Password resetting
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/24/2014 9:33 AM, Stian Thorgersen wrote:
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bill Burke" <bburke at redhat.com>
> >> To: keycloak-dev at lists.jboss.org
> >> Sent: Friday, 24 January, 2014 2:16:21 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [keycloak-dev] Password resetting
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/24/2014 8:38 AM, Stian Thorgersen wrote:
> >>> To prevent hijacking the thread for planning what goes into the next
> >>> release, I'll start this new thread on this subject.
> >>>
> >>> For clarification, at the moment what we have with password reset is :
> >>>
> >>> Users:
> >>> * If realm allows it and user has registered email address they can click
> >>> on the recover password option. They then insert their username and an
> >>> email with a link is sent to them. This link will expire within a
> >>> configurable time (default is 10 min I think). The link will open a form
> >>> enabling the user to insert a new password.
> >>>
> >>> Admins:
> >>> * Admins can set a new temporary password on a user account. This will
> >>> add
> >>> a flag that the user is required to reset the password on next login.
> >>> Currently the admin could remove this required action though, as admins
> >>> can add/remove required actions to an account
> >>>
> >>> Improvements to this flow would be good. It's not elegant that admin has
> >>> to
> >>> manually create tmp password, and somehow communicate this to the user.
> >>> Also, as Bruno pointed out this would mean an admin could gain access to
> >>> a
> >>> users account. Any other concerns?
> >>>
> >>
> >> The improvement I want is an email with a URL that contains a temporary
> >> token.  User's acct status would be set to "update password", but they
> >> would not have to enter in their password, just a new one.
> >
> > We have this already don't we? In the realm settings enable "Rest
> > password", then open the login page, now there's link for "Forgot
> > Username" and "Forgot Password".
> >
> 
> I mean a button in the admin console which will change the status of the
> user acct and also send an email to the user.
> 
> 
> >>
> >> I think you're right in that we still need the option for the admin to
> >> set up a temporary password.
> >>
> >>> With regards to admins being able to send recover email, I'm not sure I
> >>> see
> >>> the point. Users can do this themselves if they want to. Also, the link
> >>> in
> >>> the email expires within a relatively short timeout, so it would quite
> >>> likely be expired by the time a user reads it
> >>>
> >>> Stopping a compromised admin being able to access the account, I'm not
> >>> sure
> >>> that would be feasible. Even if an admin can't set a tmp password, they
> >>> could for example change the email and get a recovery password email sent
> >>> to themselves. I also think a compromised admin account would mean we're
> >>> pretty screwed in any case, so is this really important?
> >>>
> >>> I don't understand how TOTP would work, can you explain.
> >>
> >> TOTP could work same way as above.  Send an email, user is temporarily
> >> authenticated, but must reset totp key.
> >
> > We have similar feature here. If TOTP is lost the admin would disable TOTP,
> > then add a required action to re-configure TOTP on next login.
> >
> >>
> >> In the future, I'd like to have a "World of Warcraft" option.  I really
> >> like the way they do it as hacked user accounts were really common prior
> >> to 2-factor auth.  To reset a password, you get an email.  To reset TOTP
> >> you get a text to your phone.  So, if your email account gets hacked
> >> (like mine was prior to enabling 2-factor auth), you're still safe.
> >
> > Yes, we definitively needs more layers of defence. Would be great to have
> > SMS/phone options. We should also have options to enable password recovery
> > questions (What's your first car thing).
> >
> > We can also enable support for OTP through email and sms
> >
> 
> Yes.  I forgot about user questions ("What's your first car?")...that's
> something I've wanted to add too.
> 
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