[keycloak-dev] Silent Re-authentication using ID Token

Pedro Igor Silva psilva at redhat.com
Wed Oct 30 08:03:29 EDT 2019


Yeah, it works too ... Still not generic, but probably less hacky.

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 6:13 AM Stian Thorgersen <sthorger at redhat.com>
wrote:

> The sane approach to me is to extend the token introspection endpoint to
> be able to introspect ID tokens.
>
> Extending authorization endpoint with custom responses is just weird ;)
>
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 21:23, Pedro Igor Silva <psilva at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I was more thinking about re-using the authorization endpoint  +
>> prompt=none + id_token_hint with a custom response to indicate whether or
>> not the session is active. Similar to what some implementations do by
>> extending the introspection endpoint or something else.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 12:06 PM Stian Thorgersen <sthorger at redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [Adding what we discussed]
>>>
>>> Authorization code flow should not be used as a backchannel API, but
>>> rather only as a redirect-based API through the user-agent. That is pretty
>>> obvious from the fact that all responses return a Location header. That
>>> means that the cookie should always be there as the user is authenticated.
>>>
>>> id_token_hint should never be used to re-authenticate, but rather only
>>> as a hint on the identity of the user as well as the session. If the
>>> id_token could be used to actually authenticate the user it would
>>> effectively become a user credential and giving a client full access to the
>>> user account, with the ability to obtain tokens for any client.
>>>
>>> prompt=none with id_token_hint can be used as a way to identify if the
>>> expected user is still authenticated, but only through a redirect (either
>>> directly or with a hidden iframe), not as a backchannel mechanism.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 18:25, Pedro Igor Silva <psilva at redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to confirm that we don't support the `id_token_hint`
>>>> authorization request parameter.
>>>>
>>>> When in conjunction with `prompt=none` it is useful to re-authenticate
>>>> as
>>>> well as check whether or not the session associated with the token is
>>>> active through a non-authenticated request (e.g.: no cookies set by the
>>>> OP).
>>>>
>>>> The use case I'm trying to solve is based on the assumption that you
>>>> only
>>>> have/keep the ID Token, you don't want a front/back channel for logout
>>>> (e.g.: app is stateless), you need to check whether or not session is
>>>> active, and the check is done through a backchannel communication
>>>> between
>>>> the application and the OP.
>>>>
>>>> Spec-wise, using either user-info or introspection endpoint is not
>>>> possible
>>>> if you only have the ID Token (although some implementations like Google
>>>> provide an addition `id_token_hint` to the introspection endpoint) given
>>>> that you should use the access token as a bearer.
>>>>
>>>> Wdyt ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>> Pedro Igor
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>>>


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