[keycloak-dev] Remove kcinit and text-based authentication flows

Stian Thorgersen sthorger at redhat.com
Thu Sep 19 07:47:27 EDT 2019


We only want to remove kcinit work in KeycloakInstalled. In fact it is
currently broken afaik due to the kcinit stuff.

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 10:17, Marek Posolda <mposolda at redhat.com> wrote:

> I don't think we remove KeycloakInstalled. We may just need to revert to
> the state before kcinit was introduced.
>
> Marek
>
> On 19. 09. 19 9:59, Thomas Darimont wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> The KeycloakInstalled is part of the keycloak-installed-adapter which is
> used by some folks to authenticate Desktop Apps (via a browser based flow).
> Do you really want to remove KeycloakInstalled completely or just the CLI
> based interaction logic?
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 09:53, Marek Posolda <mposolda at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> It seems that CloudTrust team already made kcinit tests passing in their
>> prototype for Multi-factor authentication. So removing this now may not
>> be so urgent from this perspective - it likely won't help the work
>> regarding WebAuthn and authentication flows to be finished earlier...
>> But will be good to doublecheck.
>>
>> Marek
>>
>> On 19. 09. 19 9:31, Stian Thorgersen wrote:
>> > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/KEYCLOAK-11490
>> >
>> > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 19:15, Stian Thorgersen <sthorger at redhat.com
>> > <mailto:sthorger at redhat.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     It may be a bit of work to actually get rid of this though. A few
>> >     things that needs removing at least:
>> >
>> >     * There's both a Java and a Go kcinit
>> >     * Tests - I think they even checkout and build the kcinit go library
>> >     * Auth flow stuff, including all the duplicated code/classes for
>> >     the text mode
>> >     * KeycloakInstalled
>> >     * Probably other things as well....
>> >
>> >     It does make a lot of sense to get this done though in relation to
>> >     the auth work.
>> >
>> >     On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, 19:12 Stian Thorgersen, <sthorger at redhat.com
>> >     <mailto:sthorger at redhat.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         kc-init was never released or documented. It never got beyond
>> >         a prototype. As such it can be removed without any deprecation
>> >         period.
>> >
>> >         We never used it in OpenShift integration, and have no plans
>> >         of doing so.
>> >
>> >
>> >         On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, 16:10 Stefan Guilhen,
>> >         <sguilhen at redhat.com <mailto:sguilhen at redhat.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >             Stian has sent an e-mail to kc-user about a week ago, no
>> >             replies so far.
>> >
>> >             On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 10:50 AM Hynek Mlnarik
>> >             <hmlnarik at redhat.com <mailto:hmlnarik at redhat.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >                 +1 from dev perspective. I believe it is worth
>> >                 checking with keycloak-user
>> >                 as well.
>> >
>> >                 I guess deprecation period would be needed. IIRC, this
>> >                 was added with OSIN
>> >                 replacement in mind [1]. Is this plan obsoleted?
>> >
>> >                 [1]
>> >
>> https://github.com/keycloak/openshift-integration/blob/master/README.md
>> >
>> >                 On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:30 PM Marek Posolda
>> >                 <mposolda at redhat.com <mailto:mposolda at redhat.com>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >                 > +1
>> >                 >
>> >                 > Do we have a chance to do it now or is some
>> >                 "deprecation period" needed?
>> >                 > It may help to save some work with refactoring of
>> >                 authentication flows,
>> >                 > which will be required for multi-token and step-up
>> >                 authentication support.
>> >                 >
>> >                 > Marek
>> >                 >
>> >                 > On 06. 09. 19 11:54, Bruno Oliveira wrote:
>> >                 > > +1
>> >                 > >
>> >                 > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 6:48 AM Stian Thorgersen
>> >                 <sthorger at redhat.com <mailto:sthorger at redhat.com>>
>> >                 > wrote:
>> >                 > >> kcinit and it's associated text-based
>> >                 authentication flows adds quite a
>> >                 > bit
>> >                 > >> of complexity. It was never fully completed and
>> >                 we don't have capacity
>> >                 > to
>> >                 > >> complete it.
>> >                 > >>
>> >                 > >> Text-based authentication flows are also not
>> >                 really all that useful.
>> >                 > There
>> >                 > >> are other better approaches to authenticate
>> >                 devices without a web
>> >                 > browser,
>> >                 > >> and when there is a web browser that should be
>> >                 used rather than cli.
>> >                 > >>
>> >                 > >> I propose we remove both kcinit as well as the
>> >                 text-based authentication
>> >                 > >> flows. We also need to revert KeycloakInstalled
>> >                 to how it was prior to
>> >                 > this
>> >                 > >> was added as it is currently fairly broken.
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