[rules-dev] Re: rules-dev Digest, Vol 6, Issue 7

Rich Halsey rich_halsey at bellsouth.net
Sat Jun 9 07:30:54 EDT 2007


Mark,

>From the beginning (when you changed from Drools to Jboss Rules), I have 
always referred to the system as JBRULES - it is easy to see, easy  to say, 
and easy to write, so I vote for JBRULES.

Rich Halsey

"may you have fair seas, and a following wind"

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> From: Mark Proctor <mproctor at codehaus.org>
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> So it's over a year since we changed the name from Drools to JBoss
> Rules. Personally I really dislike <Vendor Name> + <Generic Name> naming
> schemes; especially so for Open Source projects. It's not the vendor
> prefix I dislike, as that adds weight in corporate brand recognition,
> but the generic postfix - leaving you no choice but to refer to the
> project by the full name "JBoss Rules" in all communication and
> throughout that communication; which I find tiresome. Where as ideally,
> say in a presentation, you introduce the project as JBoss + <Strong
> Name> first and then further references in your presentation can just
> use the shortened <Strong name>; emails on the mailing list, being more
> casual, can just drop to the shortened <Strong Name> straight away. It's
> not just a lazyiness of having to use two words, but I feel it makes it
> generally easier on the ears and eyes. With 4.0 coming up we have taken
> the next steps into the world of Declarative programming, so was
> thinking of JBoss DRules or JBoss D-Rules or JBoss drules - allowing the
> DRules to be used standalone to refer to the project in more casual
> communication. Anyone have any thoughts on a year of the "JBoss Rules" 
> name?
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> Mark
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> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 18:24:13 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Greg Barton <greg_barton at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [rules-dev] name
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> --- Mark Proctor <mproctor at codehaus.org> wrote:
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>> Anyone have any thoughts on a year of
>> the "JBoss Rules" name?
>
> Well, when describing drools using the new name, I'd
> often have this exchange:
>
> me: It's "JBoss Rules"
> them: It does?
> me: What does?
> them: JBoss.
> me: Does what?
> them: It..um...rules?
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> So I find the slang verb sense dominates the proper
> noun sense, even in context.  A name change would be
> good.
>
> GreG
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> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:18:03 +0200
> From: Geoffrey De Smet <ge0ffrey.spam at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [rules-dev] name
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> Currently it has more then 1 name and it's confusing.
> The webpage says "jboss rules", but on the maven repo it's under
> "drools", also the jars are called "drools" etc.
>
> The JBoss namespace does matter:
> - Most people think "Jboss Seam" only works on Jboss AS.
> - While everyone knows "Hibernate" works on everything.
>
> With kind regards,
> Geoffrey De Smet
>
> PS: I partially started working on drools-solver/taseree again :) I 'll
> show some configuration on this list when it's finished.
>
> Greg Barton wrote:
>> --- Mark Proctor <mproctor at codehaus.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have any thoughts on a year of
>>> the "JBoss Rules" name?
>>
>> Well, when describing drools using the new name, I'd
>> often have this exchange:
>>
>> me: It's "JBoss Rules"
>> them: It does?
>> me: What does?
>> them: JBoss.
>> me: Does what?
>> them: It..um...rules?
>>
>> So I find the slang verb sense dominates the proper
>> noun sense, even in context.  A name change would be
>> good.
>>
>> GreG
>>
>>
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