Please guys, let us know if someone start with this, we are making guvnor improvements and probably would be useful to know if you are running into troubles.<br>Greetings<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Jervisliu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jliu@redhat.com">jliu@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">Toni Rikkola wrote:<br>
> Yes Nicolas was taking a look at it. Last time I was talking to him, he<br>
> told me that he is going to do it this week. So he might not have<br>
> started yet. I'll inform him about this.<br>
><br>
><br>
</div>Just filed a Jira for this: <a href="https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/GUVNOR-499" target="_blank">https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/GUVNOR-499</a><br>
<br>
Jervis<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">> Toni<br>
><br>
> Michael Neale wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I believe Nicolas Heron was looking at this, if he had time during the<br>
>> christmas break - if not, please, go ahead, it would solve a few<br>
>> problems.<br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Jervisliu <<a href="mailto:jliu@redhat.com">jliu@redhat.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jliu@redhat.com">jliu@redhat.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Michael Neale wrote:<br>
>> > I know someone was looking at upgrading to GWT 2.0, even with<br>
>> gwt-ext,<br>
>> > it may still work<br>
>> ><br>
>> We can certainly upgrade to GWT 2.0. If we run into any problems<br>
>> during<br>
>> the upgrade, we can always fix them. There is a Jira ticket relates to<br>
>> this topic: <a href="https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/GUVNOR-158" target="_blank">https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/GUVNOR-158</a> (Upgrade key<br>
>> libary dependencies (post 5.0)).<br>
>><br>
>> Who is working on GWT 2.0 upgrade? If no one else is already starting<br>
>> looking into GWT2.0, I will volunteer to do this.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> Jervis<br>
>> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Esteban Aliverti<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:esteban.aliverti@gmail.com">esteban.aliverti@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:esteban.aliverti@gmail.com">esteban.aliverti@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:esteban.aliverti@gmail.com">esteban.aliverti@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:esteban.aliverti@gmail.com">esteban.aliverti@gmail.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Ok, I agree with you. We have discussed this with conan<br>
>> today and<br>
>> > get the same conclusion as you. We started looking at<br>
>> mosaic, but<br>
>> > the biggest limitation we have right now is the GWT version<br>
>> we are<br>
>> > using. New libraries are already using gwt 2.0, so we canīt use<br>
>> > the latest versions of them. The same problem arise when<br>
>> composing<br>
>> > widgets. GWT 1.5.3 is very basic.<br>
>> > We will continue using native GWT or GWTExt until Guvnor is<br>
>> moved<br>
>> > to GWT 2.x (I donīt know the effort required for that).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Best,<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Michael Neale<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:michael.neale@gmail.com">michael.neale@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:michael.neale@gmail.com">michael.neale@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:michael.neale@gmail.com">michael.neale@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:michael.neale@gmail.com">michael.neale@gmail.com</a>>>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I don't think it would be a good idea unless migrating to<br>
>> > SmartGWT overall - it would just drag on a whole other heavy<br>
>> > framework.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Longer term it would be nice to NOT depend on any JS<br>
>> > frameworks- but use GWT native ones - the reason being that<br>
>> > only the used bits are compiled in, and also as GWT compiler<br>
>> > innovations continue apace, that insures compatability and<br>
>> > speed improvements.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I don't really see the need to use a JS library like<br>
>> SmartGWT<br>
>> > - the only place we used GWT-ext was for the overall<br>
>> "chrome"<br>
>> > look - (eg the accordion, tabs) and a few grid views, and a<br>
>> > couple of trees, barely 10% of what is in the ext framework.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I certainly think it is a very bad idea to use a framework<br>
>> > like smart GWT now for widgets - the built in GWT ones are<br>
>> > pretty basic, but it is worth the effort to compose them<br>
>> into<br>
>> > richer ones, or look for GWT "native" ones to reuse - as at<br>
>> > least they will be resolved at compile time. Some GWT<br>
>> ones to<br>
>> > take a look at: <a href="http://vaadin.com/home" target="_blank">http://vaadin.com/home</a><br>
>> > and <a href="http://code.google.com/p/gwt-mosaic/" target="_blank">http://code.google.com/p/gwt-mosaic/</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > (not that I have anything against javascript, just it makes<br>
>> > things much harder with GWT, and kind of defeats the purpose<br>
>> > of using it).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Of course we would like to get off gwt-ext eventually, I<br>
>> don't<br>
>> > think SmartGWT is the way to go, and certainly not<br>
>> introducing<br>
>> > it unless we plan to migrate to it.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:46 AM, Esteban Aliverti<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:esteban.aliverti@gmail.com">esteban.aliverti@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:esteban.aliverti@gmail.com">esteban.aliverti@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:esteban.aliverti@gmail.com">esteban.aliverti@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:esteban.aliverti@gmail.com">esteban.aliverti@gmail.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hi all,<br>
>> > Baunax and I are making some improvements in<br>
>> Guvnor's rule<br>
>> > editor (from/collect/accumulate support, expression<br>
>> > builder widget, etc.) and we want to start using<br>
>> Smart GWT<br>
>> > (<a href="http://www.smartclient.com/" target="_blank">http://www.smartclient.com/</a>). This library is the<br>
>> > successor of GWText (the one Guvnor is using now).<br>
>> You can<br>
>> > see this in GWText home<br>
>> > page <a href="http://code.google.com/p/gwt-ext/" target="_blank">http://code.google.com/p/gwt-ext/</a>.<br>
>> > Some of the reasons we have to move to Smart GWT are:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > * GWTExt is deprecated. It is no longer under active<br>
>> > development.<br>
>> > * Smart GWT is under LGPL license (just like GWTExt)<br>
>> > * Smart GWT support any version of GWT (from<br>
>> 1.5.3 to<br>
>> > 2.0). There shouldn't be any problem when we start<br>
>> > using GWT 2.xx<br>
>> > * Smart GWT has a lot of widgets, effects, layouts<br>
>> > etc. that can make our life easier ;).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Of course we are not going to migrate Guvnor to<br>
>> Smart GWT;<br>
>> > we want just to use it for the new features we are<br>
>> > implementing.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > So, are you guys agree? Does anyone have any objection?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > We are currently working<br>
>> > on guvnor_expressionEditor3_baunax_esteban branch.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Best,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
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