<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>We use the MVP and Activities&Places patterns in Guvnor. These are something that the programmer should just know how to use, nothing is forcing us to use them and it is easy to go around them by mistake or intentionally.</div><div><br></div><div>Some are checks for dirty code, some for bugs:</div><div><br></div><div>* The presenter or model contains UI or GWT components</div><div>* The presenter is missing an unit test</div><div>* The view contains too much logic</div><div>* GWT EventBus is passed into activity classes in constructor or in some other method than the Activity.start() method</div><div>* Classes that should be created with GWT.create() are created using new</div><div><div>* There is a Place that does not lead to any Activity</div><div>* There is an Activity, but no Place that would lead to it</div><div>* There is an event raised and pushed into the eventbus, but no GWT event handler</div><div>* The event handler exists, but there is no event created to match it</div><div><br></div><div>Toni </div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 20, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Jiri Svitak wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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The thesis would be aimed at verifying Drools Java code. With
Findbugs you can find bugs in every Java project, but in this case
the Findbugs would use user defined bug patterns (based on
JIRAs/Bugzillas).<br>
Drools verifier is intended to verify correctness of user's DRL
using static analysis.<br>
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Model checking is more difficult to do. It executes code, so I would
have to create environment for it to run, for example an application
which uses Drools. Then verify some property of the system.<br>
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On 09/19/2011 06:18 PM, Mauricio Salatino wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:CANzbnyX8yTkZ1sC7uDzROkAg=16-SDJtRJvjUvq1jjZdmqwbtw@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">Exactly, I thought that the main point is verify the
correctness of the Rules, If I misunderstood that sorry..
<div>If you are talking about only finding bugs in the Drools
code, it will be the same as finding bugs in any other project
right?</div>
<div>I'm just curious..</div>
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Hi Jiri,
<div>Drools Verifier do that for you? Am I right?</div>
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I think this is a misunderstanding. Looking at Drools'
Java code takes a Java bug finding program such as
findbugs. What Drools Verifier does is: look at DRL code
written by Drools users.<br>
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Findbugs applied to Drools code is a good idea, but I
would opt for this to include fundamental code that's <i>used
</i>by Drools and responsible for a considerable number
of JIRAs.<br>
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<div> Toni Rikkola is the man behind drools
verifier, you can talk with him to improve what he
has now. I know that Esteban was also playing with
that and adding the concept of Working Set. You
can talk with him as well.</div>
<div>Cheers<br>
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<div>On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Ansgar
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<div><p>If I'm eligible to vote, please go for
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