[rules-users] Re: Drools and BRMS (60,000+ rules)

[Mark Proctor]

Carlsen, Len wrote:
> This is very cool and is exactly what we will need for our new open
> source SIS. Once we have designed our BRMS then we will look more
> closely at Drools Solver (especially after the ITC competition).  
>   
Are you writting your own BRMS from scratch? Are there any particular 
issues with the BRMS at the moment that would warrant this? Maybe you 
could work on the BRMS we have now to extend it to satisfy your needs.
> Currently, we are using Ad Astra for our course timetabling and exam
> scheduling and it would be good if we could replace that with Solver.
>
> Thanks for your interest,
>
> Len
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org
> [mailto:rules-users-bounces at lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Geoffrey De
> Smet
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 5:09 AM
> To: rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> Subject: [rules-users] Re: Drools and BRMS (60,000+ rules)
>
>
> Mark Proctor wrote:
>   
>> Carlsen, Len wrote:
>>     
>>> Other issues are the performance of the Drools Solver and having 
>>> thousands of rules compiled, loaded and running. During registration 
>>> we could have thousands of rules executing concurrently. The rules 
>>> engine and the BRMS would be services as part of an SOA
>>>       
> infrastructure 
>   
>>> (and an OSGi service environment).  Anyone got any experience with 
>>> Drools in an OSGi environment with respect to class loading issues 
>>> when compiling rules and facts from other bundles since rules and 
>>> facts may be in different bundles? Bundle buddy class loading?
>>>
>>>       
>> No but it is something that interests us, please give us your OSGi 
>> feedback. Solver is not currently a supported product, its very much
>>     
> R&D 
>   
>> alphaware, but I'm sure geoffrey would love your feedback, good to see
>>     
>
>   
>> people are evaluating it.
>>     
>
> yes, feedback on solver is very welcome :)
>
> The good news is, I am now working on an example called Examination,
> which is an implementation for the itc2007 examination competition:
> http://www.cs.qub.ac.uk/itc2007/examtrack/exam_track_index_files/exameva
> luation.htm
> It's based on real-world data. The "starter" dataset contains 7883 
> students, 607 exams, 54 periods and 7 rooms. There are 5 hard 
> constraints and 7 soft constraints:
> http://www.cs.qub.ac.uk/itc2007/examtrack/exam_track_index_files/exameva
> luation.htm
>
> The bad news is, it's not performing yet, because I need to make a 
> scalable selector implementation, which I am working on.
>
> There's an example called lesson schedule (which schedules courses), but
>
> that's just a toy example to learn drools-solver, at it just has 2 hard 
> constraints.
>
> One piece of advice though: separate the solver part from the rest. Once
>
>   the solver starts calculating, you 'll only want to have score-related
>
> rules in the rulebase. The solver can easily do a million fireAllRules 
> per minute, so every performance loss is blown up.
>
> With kind regards,
> Geoffrey De Smet
>
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