[rules-users] drools-solver [StartingSolutionInitializer]

Andrew Waterman andrew.waterman at gmail.com
Tue Feb 17 18:32:07 EST 2009


Hi,

Thanks for the rules suggestions, using a simple generated id has  
radically improved my solver times (and my scoring).  I'm now looking  
into using the StartingSolutionInitializer code to feed  
startingSolutions into the solver.

I'm a little confused about the intended functionality in the  
interface, and wanted to get some feedback.  Basically, the simple  
solver that we had used previously to find our solution space, didn't  
take into account any of the topographical constraints of our game  
board.  The solutions it offered are not highly specific, in the sense  
that one doesn't know where all the tokens should be placed.  What it  
does offer are distributions of tokens on the game board.  For example:

4 tokens of managed forest per territory.
4 tokens of moderate pasture per territory.
4 tokens of intensive pasture per territory.

I'd like to use the startingSolutionInitializer to take a suggested  
distribution, populate our board with those values, and then pass it  
back to the solver to solve.

Is the initializer the right place to do this?  Or should I simply  
view the initializer as a deterministic entry point for ordering and  
composing an incomplete solution before passing it off to the solver?

best wishes,

Andrew

---------------------------------
Andrew Waterman
San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico
+52 1 967 107 5902
+1 510 342 5693

On Feb 13, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Geoffrey De Smet wrote:

>
> With kind regards,
> Geoffrey De Smet
>
>
> Andrew Waterman schreef:
>> Hi,
>> I've been looking through my solver logs and on a problem i have  
>> posed, the solver seems to first initialize and setup a best score:
>> INFO: Initialization time spend (3) for score (-5000004.0).  
>> Updating best solution and best score.
>> However, this score is not correct.  I use collect to load Tokens  
>> of a certain type for my game, and those that are found, penalize  
>> the system with a constraint:
>> rule "Too much unclaimed territory"
>>    when
>>        $list : ArrayList ( size > 2) from collect  (
>>            Token ($type : type == TokenType.UNDEVELOPED))
>>    then
>>        for (int i = 0; i < $list.size(); i++) {
>>            insertLogical (new IntConstraintOccurrence (
>>                "Too much unclaimed territory",  
>> ConstraintType.NEGATIVE_SOFT, 3, $list));
>
> Doesn't this insert the same logical fact in a loop? So only 1  
> instance actually remains in the working memory?
> If you want to have to list.size() affect the score, just do:
>  3 * list.size()
>
>>        }
>> end
>
> Why use collect anyway?
>
>     when
>         $t1 : Token ($type : type == TokenType.UNDEVELOPED, id1 : id)
>         $t2 : Token ($type : type == TokenType.UNDEVELOPED, id >  
> id1, id2 : id)
>         $t3 : Token ($type : type == TokenType.UNDEVELOPED, id >  
> id2, id3 : id)
>
> // maybe you need things like this: not Token ($type : type ==  
> TokenType.UNDEVELOPED, id > id3)
>     then
>  insertLogical (new IntConstraintOccurrence ("Too much unclaimed  
> territory",  ConstraintType.NEGATIVE_SOFT, 3, $t1, $t2, $t3));
>
>> However, the initial score does not seem to account  for these  
>> inserted facts.  Due to this, all improving solutions are rejected,  
>> and I see no change in the solution the solver finds and my  
>> starting solution.  Any suggestions on how to delay  
>> initialization?  Or get the starting score to take into account  
>> this constraint (I've made it SOFT so the values aren't so hard to  
>> follow in the logs, it was initially a HARD constraint).  I'd love  
>> to find a way around this problem, I've spent most of the day  
>> playing with different configurations (acceptors and foragers)  
>> trying to find a configuration that works for this base problem.
>> best wishes,
>> Andrew
>> ---------------------------------
>> Andrew Waterman
>> San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico
>> +52 1 967 107 5902
>> +1 510 342 5693
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