[rules-users] Arden Syntax support in Drools / Guvnor?

Greg Barton greg_barton at yahoo.com
Sat Jul 3 02:01:52 EDT 2010


The first one has a full grammar for parsing Arden syntax, which would be a good starting point for producing an Arden->drools compiler.  Also, you could compile MLMs into java classes using the project as is and use the results of their processing in drools rules.

It might be worth it to get IEEExplore access (I don't have it myself) to read that paper.  The abstract describes translating Arden syntax to CLIPS (another rules based system like drools) so it should be easy to adapt what they did to drools. (You might try contacting the author directly.)

--- On Sat, 7/3/10, Harry Simons <simonsharry at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Harry Simons <simonsharry at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [rules-users] Arden Syntax support in Drools / Guvnor?
> To: "Rules Users List" <rules-users at lists.jboss.org>
> Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 12:33 AM
> I did run into the first one. But
> thinking that Drools/Guvnor may nor 
> may not be able to edit the bytecode, I thought may be it's
> better to 
> ask on the Drools forum.
> 
> The second one... the paper... I'm not so sure from its
> title and 
> abstract if it would help me. (Unfortunately, I don't also
> have 
> IEEExplore access!)
> 
> Basically, I'm looking for a way to *import* Arden MLMs
> into 
> Drools/Guvnor, and then be able to modify them through a
> GUI, much like 
> I would rules natively done in Drools/Guvnor.
> 
> Thanks though, I will still check out the bytecode compiler
> sometime.
> 
> On 07/03/2010 10:15 AM, Greg Barton wrote:
> > Have you seen this...
> >
> > http://github.com/dgrunwald/arden2bytecode
> >
> > ...and this?
> >
> > http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fiel5%2F4548614%2F4548615%2F04548695.pdf%3Farnumber%3D4548695&authDecision=-203
> >
> > --- On Fri, 7/2/10, HarrySimons<simonsharry at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >    
> >> From: HarrySimons<simonsharry at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [rules-users] Arden Syntax support in
> Drools / Guvnor?
> >> To: rules-users at lists.jboss.org
> >> Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 11:11 PM
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark Proctor wrote:
> >>      
> >>>     On 02/07/2010 07:37,
> HarrySimons
> >>>        
> >> wrote:
> >>      
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Wanted to know whether or not the
> Drools/Guvnor
> >>>>          
> >> combo supports the Arden
> >>      
> >>>> Syntax for knowledge coding... used in
> Medical
> >>>>          
> >> Logic Modules (or, MLMs)
> >>      
> >>>> and
> >>>> clinical decision support systems such as
> EGADSS.
> >>>>
> >>>> If no, then are there any external tools
> /
> >>>>          
> >> utilities that would allow
> >>      
> >>>> importing of Arden Syntax into Drools /
> Guvnor?
> >>>>          
> >>> There is nothing for this at the moment,
> sounds like a
> >>>        
> >> good sub project
> >>      
> >>> if you have time? :)
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
> >>>        
> >> Hey Mark -
> >> First off, appreciate your prompt response.
> >> Wish I had the time and, more importantly, the
> brains to do
> >> it! :-(
> >> I guess, I'll have to wait then.. but hopefully
> not
> >> forever... for a more
> >> qualified and braver comrade in our community...
> to take
> >> this project up.
> >>
> >> I do think that such a tool, if one were to exist,
> would
> >> greatly popularize
> >> Drools in the clinical decision support systems
> >> community... as the tons and
> >> tons of legacy MLMs (Medical Logic Modules) coded
> in the
> >> past two decades
> >> for use in CDSSs would instantly become available
> for use
> >> in the JBoss
> >> world!
> >>
> >> Many thanks, once again...
> >>
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> at
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