[rules-users] difference between jBPM and drools?

Fri Apr 8 11:11:52 EDT 2011

1. Can jBPM5 process rule flow (.rf) files?

Yes, this is supported for backwards compatibility reasons.  We do 
recommend using the BPMN2 format for new processes though (as newer 
features are not backported to the .rf format).

2. How does the handling of BPMN in jBPM5 compare with Drools Flow 5.1? 
There were limitations in Drools Flow 5.1 
(http://downloads.jboss.com/drools/docs/5.1.1.34858.FINAL/drools-flow/html_single/index.html#d0e2782). 
Our flows make use of State nodes, which weren't supported in BPMN - is 
this still the case? If so, is there an alternative way of implementing 
similar behaviour in the BPMN spec.?

Some of the limitations have already been resolved (globals, imports) 
using custom extensions. Unfortunately, states are not supported 
directly in BPMN 2.0.  An alternative to model them as an ad-hoc 
subprocess or using intermediate events might be possible but seems 
tricky to say the least.  So states are not supported in jBPM 5.0.  
We're looking at adding support for them in 5.1, probably as a custom 
node type.

Kris

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> Drools Flow was separated from drools trunk and re-branded (with 
> additional modifications) to jBPM5. So, drools code 2 will not contain 
> Drools Flow. If you want to use Flow, then just go to jBPM5.
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> Op 07-04-11 10:25, _Alan.Gairey at tessella.com_ 
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> > So to clarify, does Drools 5.2 contain Drools Flow any longer, or has
> > this been superceded by jBPM 5? If I wish to submit feature requests,
> > bugs etc., is there a separate issue tracker for jBPM 5?
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> > On 06/04/2011 22:34, Mauricio Salatino wrote:
> > It's the same thing, you can use jBPM5. because Drools Flow and jBPM4
> > are abandoned right now.
> > Greetings
> > Abandoned isn't the best word.  jBPM5 is the successor of the two
> > projects, incorporating aspects of both. It is mostly, if not
> > entirely, api compatible with drools flow.
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> > I don't find much about the difference between jBPM and drools flow,
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> > (__http://www.jboss.org/drools/drools-flow#Drools_Flow_and_jBPM__, first
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> > practical site.
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> > Can anybody tell me about the advantages or disadvantages? What are
> > the main points to decide which one to use?
> > Maybe I missed a blog entry or something like that, but I don't find
> > more. A pointer or something else would be nice.
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