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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=808310208-15052007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Erm, I'd already raised a JIRA for rule flow support in the
BRMS:-</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face="Courier New" size=1>Provide RuleFlow editing capabilities within
JBRMS<BR>--------------------------------------------------</FONT></DIV>
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Key:
JBRULES-851<BR>
URL: <A
href="http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-851">http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-851</A><BR>
Project: JBoss Rules<BR>
Issue Type: Feature Request<BR> Security Level:
Public (Everyone can
see)<BR>
Reporter: Michael Anstis<BR>
Assigned To: Mark Proctor</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org
[mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Shahad
Ahmed<BR><B>Sent:</B> 15 May 2007 00:37<BR><B>To:</B> Rules Users
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [rules-users] Using the Rule Flow Builder
GUI<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Mark, Kris, Thanks for the replies. </DIV>
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<DIV>>1) Yes kris is still working on the decision stuff for ruleflow.
<DIV>>Some of the stuff is already partially implemented, but an (X)OR
split (where you</DIV>
<DIV>>can define which path(s) to follow based on some conditions) is still
on the TODO list.<SPAN class=q><BR> </SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>I look forward to trying out the XOR decision node stuff. By the looks of
the code in the trunk, the core stuff isn't to far for completion.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>>2) A rule currently can only belong to one ruleflow-group, but a
ruleflow-group </DIV>
<DIV>> can belong to multiple ruleflows ...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Reuse of ruleflow-groups is a good start, but allowing rules to belong to
more than one group is definitely worth considering at some point. I may just
give this a go and see what it looks like:) What I've found is that when you
use a decent BRMS (like the new BRMS in JBoss Rules) and have all your rules
in one place, then the potential for reuse really starts to become apparent.
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Incidentally, is there any merit to adding ruleflow management into
the BRMS, if only to allow them to be versioned and added to the repository.
Perhaps they could be an additional element to a package (i.e like Business
rules, models etc.). I can see that defining ruleflows is probably not
something that could be done easily (if at all) in the BRMS web app itself.
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<DIV><FONT color=#550055>>3) The Eclipse GUI ruleflow builder doesn't seem
to allow loops in the flow.<SPAN></SPAN> </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>>It does support the creation of loops: create an XOR split as the
starting point </DIV>
<DIV>>of your loop, you can then always create nodes that link back to this
</DIV>
<DIV>>starting point, resulting in a loop...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Kris, I assume you meant create an XOR Join (not Split) as the
starting point of the loop, in which case I can see how that would work -
thanks.</DIV>
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<DIV>Regards</DIV>
<DIV>Shahad</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 5/14/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Kris
Verlaenen</B> <<A
href="mailto:kris.verlaenen@cs.kuleuven.be">kris.verlaenen@cs.kuleuven.be</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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<DIV>> 1) Yes kris is still working on the decision stuff for
ruleflow.</DIV></SPAN>
<DIV>Some of the stuff is already partially implemented, but an (X)OR split
(where you can define which path(s) to follow based on some conditions) is
still on the TODO list.<SPAN class=q><BR><BR>> 3) The Eclipse GUI
ruleflow builder doesn't seem to allow loops in the flow. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>It does support the creation of loops: create an XOR split as the
starting point of your loop, you can then always create nodes that link back
to this starting point, resulting in a loop. Note that looping kind of
depends on the (X)OR split as well, as that would allow you to exit the loop
in specific conditions (now you will probably create an endless loop).
I hope I'll be able to add that piece of functionality pretty soon to trunk.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kris</FONT></DIV>
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