<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Geoffrey,<div><br></div><div>Sorry to be so late on this feedback. I like your suggestions, it would be quite nice to move away from the magic ScoreCalculator name. I'd like to be able to list the components that were fed into a score, as well. For example, I have a rule such as:</div><div><br></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Monaco; color: rgb(150, 0, 0); ">rule</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Monaco; color: rgb(0, 128, 0); "><span style="color: #000000"> </span>"western border deforested"</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Monaco; "> <span style="color: #960000">when</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Monaco; "> $tok1 : Token ($id : id, border == BorderType.WEST, </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Monaco; "> type <span style="color: #960000">in</span> (TokenType.MODERATE_PASTURE, TokenType.INTENSIVE_PASTURE))</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Monaco; "> $tok2 : Token (id > $id, $id2 : id, border == BorderType.WEST,</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Monaco; "> type <span style="color: #960000">in</span> (TokenType.MODERATE_PASTURE, TokenType.INTENSIVE_PASTURE))</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Monaco; "> $tok3 : Token (id > $id2, border == BorderType.WEST, </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Monaco; "> type <span style="color: #960000">in</span> (TokenType.MODERATE_PASTURE, TokenType.INTENSIVE_PASTURE)) </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Monaco; "> <span style="color: #960000">then</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Monaco; color: rgb(150, 0, 0); "><span style="color: #000000"> </span>insertLogical<span style="color: #000000"> (</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Monaco; "> <span style="color: #960000">new</span> UnweightedConstraintOccurrence(<span style="color: #008000">"western border deforested"</span>, </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Monaco; "> $tok1, $tok2, $tok3));</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 11px/normal Monaco; color: rgb(150, 0, 0); ">end</div></div><div><br></div><div>I would like to be able to query the score later, in my case when it is less than 0.0, in order to list out the specific constraints (identifying String and causal objects) that keep the problem from being solved, I believe I can do this today, by implementing my own ScoreCalculator, but it would be a nice feature of the Score object, especially when accessible from the Solution handle.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure how happy I am with imposing references to the actions of the solver into outside facts, however. I would prefer to keep my inserted facts quite seperate from the solver code -- however I see nothing wrong with a reference inside a Move implementation. :)</div><div><br></div><div>best wishes,</div><div><br></div><div>Andrew</div><div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><div><div><div><div>---------------------------------</div><div>Andrew Waterman</div><div>San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico</div><div>+52 1 967 107 5902</div><div>+1 510 342 5693</div><div><br></div></div><br></div><br></div><br></div><br></div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On Feb 21, 2009, at 5:07 AM, Geoffrey De Smet wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Feed-back welcome :)<br><br>The score should be a Score instance of double. Add build-in support for HardAndSoftScore. Replace ScoreCalculator with ScoreHolder.<br> <a href="https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBRULES-1158">https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBRULES-1158</a><br><br>Solution should have a getScore() and the score rules need to calculate the correct score for a solution instead of filling some magic global variable<br> <a href="https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBRULES-1977">https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBRULES-1977</a><br><br>With kind regards,<br>Geoffrey De Smet<br><br><br>Geoffrey De Smet schreef:<br><blockquote type="cite">I am actually considering a couple of designs, which also happens to solve the problem of the magic name of the scoreCalculator.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">1) a score will no longer be a double, but an instance of a new interface Score. This will means that a score of an int hard and int soft will be represented as it should be: an int hard and an int soft. That has 2 advantages:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- you could use implement their own Score, if the out-of-the-box types don't suffice, say int hard, BigDecimal soft, double verySoft.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">- it would be possible to decide the step, not on a normal compareTo, where hard is always higher then soft, but on (hard * hardAsSoftWeight + soft), where hardAsSoftWeight changes:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">it's normally very high, but when no hard constraints are broken in a long time, it temporarily goes down.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">This allows the local search to take steps that break a hard constraints for a while, passing through hard barriers. Experiments have proven that this gives better results.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">2) a Solution has a Score. That Score can be uninitialized or dirty.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">A Solution is also inserted into the working memory (along with it's facts).<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Every changing fact (Queen, Lesson, Exam, ...) will also need to hold a reference to it's Solution.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">That way every ConstraintOccurrence can hold a reference to it's Solution.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Then the calculateScore rule will update the score in a solution, instead of putting it into a global. The solver still has a reference to the solution, so it can retrieve the score.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">This allows for multiple solution instances to be put into same working memory and there's no magic scoreCalculator.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">What do you think? Criticism welcome :)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Of course, backward compatibility will be broken (as stated in the manual), but everything will be documented into an upgradeRecipe.txt,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">so it shouldn't be to hard to upgrade to a newer version.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">With kind regards,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Geoffrey De Smet<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Greg Barton schreef:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Actually, I was wishing for something similar last night, but for the names of entry-points. I think it would be nice if you could specify the names of things in DRL from the values of public static final Strings. (i.e. constants) Do you dev folk think that's possible enough to make a jira request for it?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Geoffrey De Smet <<a href="mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com">ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">From: Geoffrey De Smet <<a href="mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com">ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Subject: [rules-users] Re: drools-solver - magic name of scoreCalculator<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To: <a href="mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org">rules-users@lists.jboss.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 9:37 AM<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Yes, it's not that good that it's a magic name.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">However, I don't know any other way to do it.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Feel free to make a jira for it, especially if you know a<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">better way to do it :)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">With kind regards,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Geoffrey De Smet<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Andrew Waterman schreef:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Thanks Geoffrey! I patched this yesterday with<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">slf4j-jcl and slf4j-nop for no loging. I'll post the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">mavne dependencies later this morning in case others wish to<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">use non-log4j implementations. :) I did noticeas well that<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the "scoreCalculator" global is referenced by name<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">from the solver. Want me to file a jira issue on that? It<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">seems strange that the variable name shoudl be static like<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">that to me.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">best wishes,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Andrew<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Geoffrey De Smet<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com">ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com">mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Adding the slf4j-log4j12 dependency to your<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">pom.xml should fix it :)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <dependency><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><groupId>org.slf4j</groupId><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><artifactId>slf4j-log4j12</artifactId><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <scope>runtime</scope><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> </dependency><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Not sure how changing anything in<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">drools-solver-examples could fix<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> it, normally your project wouldn't depend on<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">it, only on<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> drools-solver-core.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> With kind regards,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Geoffrey De Smet<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Greg Barton schreef:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> I was getting the error below running the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">benchmarkNQueens.sh<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> script in drools-solver-examples. I got<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">around it by taking the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> "<scope>runtime</scope>"<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">line out of the slf4j-log4j12<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> dependency in drools-solver-examples/pom.xml. <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Not sure if<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> that's the right way to get around it, but<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">it worked. :)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Geoffrey De Smet<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com">ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <<a href="mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com">mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com</a>>><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> From: Geoffrey De Smet<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com">ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <<a href="mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com">mailto:ge0ffrey.spam@gmail.com</a>>><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Subject: [rules-users] Re: drools-solver<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-- logger error<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> (slf4j binding)?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> To: <a href="mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org">rules-users@lists.jboss.org</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <<a href="mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org">mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 1:04 AM<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> drools-score (like hibernate and many<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">other lib projects)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> just depends on sl4j-api, which is a<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">logging interface.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> It's up to the end-use product to<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">decide which logging<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> implementation to use under that and how<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">to configure the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> logging (where to log to, how much to log,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">...).<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> In the drools solver examples I 've<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">put slf4j-log4j<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> underneat it, because I am familiar with<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">log4j's<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> configuration, take a look at their<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">log4j.xml files. However<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> they say that the logback implementation<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">is better these<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> days.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> PS: I 'll take a look at the other<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">discussions this<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> afternoon.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> With kind regards,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Geoffrey De Smet<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Andrew Waterman schreef:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> Hi,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> I'm using the drools-solver.M5<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">build through Maven<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> and have gotten the following error while<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">running my<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> project:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> SLF4J: Failed to load class<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">"org.slf4j.impl.StaticLoggerBinder".<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> SLF4J: See<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> <br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.slf4j.org/codes.html#StaticLoggerBinder">http://www.slf4j.org/codes.html#StaticLoggerBinder</a> for<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> further details.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> I've checked my dependency graph,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">and<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> drools-solver references the sl4j-api, but<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 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type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">"Warning: following standard input indefinitely<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">is ineffective"<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">- /bin/tail error message<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">"Against logic there is no armor like<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 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