<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Thanks Vijay.</div><div><br></div><div>I think I have few more questions. </div><div><br></div><div>1) Does Guvnor include the runtime or Rule engine it self ? I could create rule and execute it in Guvnor so does this mean it has Expert included in it.</div><div><br></div><div>2) When a end user/app executes/fires a rule where is the rule runtime, is it the client JVM or Guvnor JVM ?</div><div>In other words are rules executed in Guvnor that are packaged and made available on Guvnor or will they be marshalled</div><div>to the client calling the rule and executed in client JVM. </div><div><br></div><div>3) Can you give an example of Drools5.0 deployment pattern. How Guvnor,Expert and J2EE app will communicate.</div><div><br></div><div>thanks</div><div>Sumant</div><div
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Guvnor </span></font><font size="2" color="navy" face="Wingdings"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy;">à</span></font><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"><span> This can be used to
manage your rules specifically termed as BRMS (Business Rules Management
System). This can really play its part from the “governance”
perspective in your company/enterprise/project. Take a look at this URL <a target="_blank" href="http://downloads.jboss.com/drools/docs/5.0.1.26597.FINAL/drools-guvnor/html_single/index.html#d0e78">http://downloads.jboss.com/drools/docs/5.0.1.26597.FINAL/drools-guvnor/html_single/index.html#d0e78</a>
mainly section 1.1.1 </span></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Expert </span></font><font size="2" color="navy" face="Wingdings"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy;">à</span></font><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"> This is the actual
runtime/development module for the rule engine. </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Take a look at this part (<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Chapter 3 – Installation and Setup</span></b><span>)
of the documentation <a target="_blank" href="http://downloads.jboss.com/drools/docs/5.0.1.26597.FINAL/drools-introduction/html_single/index.html#d0e1322">http://downloads.jboss.com/drools/docs/5.0.1.26597.FINAL/drools-introduction/html_single/index.html#d0e1322</a>
this should help your understanding of various jars and the modules</span></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Sumant Kumar<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:35
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between Guvnor and</span></span></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;"> Expert components in Drools5.0.</span></font></span><font size="3" face="Arial"></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;">Guvnor sounds like BRMS so does it
have Rule engine ( or runtime) to execute rules ?. Is Expert module part of
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;">If Guvnor doesn't have rule engine
how does it excute rule when we do QA.</span></font></span><font size="3" face="Arial"></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;">I cannot find Expert module for down
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;">thanks</span></font></span><font size="3" face="Arial"></font></p>
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