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color:#1F497D">Or option 4 is you could write a custom operator (substring) to do it for you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Anstis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 21 October 2010 08:43<br>
<b>To:</b> Rules Users List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rules-users] Alternative for using a regular expression<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Dean,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is the encoded value used elsewhere within your organisation from the same object model?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It'd make a compelling reason to suggest your model is enriched to expose the decoded flags if they are (e.g. reporting).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">However all is not lost:-<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(1) You can use "matches" regular expressions (as you identified):-<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">rule "one"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> when</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> $c : Claim( claimStatus matches ^.{4}1324.{0,} )</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> then</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> //Something</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">end</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(2) You can use "eval":-<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">rule "two"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> when</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> Claim( $cs : claimStatus )</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> eval($cs.substring(3, 7).equals("1234"))</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> then</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> //Something</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">end</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(3) You can use "from" and a global helper class:-<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">global MyDecoder myDecoder </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">rule "three"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> when</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> Claim( $cs : claimStatus )</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> String( toString == "1234" ) from myDecoder.decodeClaimStatus($cs)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> then</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> //Something</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">end</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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See attached example project for the last option.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You could then use DSL to "hide" the technical implementations for your users.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">With kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mike<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2010/10/20 Dean Whisnant <<a href="mailto:dean@basys.com">dean@basys.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hello,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">In designing our rules system to allow users and analysts to create and edit rules (through Guvnor) we have a requirement
that some of the fields be able to be evaluated for specific characters in specific positions of the string. See the following examples:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Example 1: The string named “claimStatus” contains various flags all pushed together in a string. It might look like “ABS1324BB7”.
Together this field means about nothing, but position 4-7 (1324) is an important code that they want to evaluate. A business rule for this would be if position 4-7 in claimStatus = “1324” then we categorize that claims for some reason.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">In loose java syntax I would likely use ‘if claimStatus.substring(3,4) = “1324” then do something.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I could have the user program a formula using the substring method, but that would be quite inefficient and a lot of information
for them to figure out.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I could have the user say claimStatus matches ^.{4}1324.{0,} but this regular expression is quite cryptic.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">While at Rulesfest I ran the topic by a couple folks there and they thought that posing it to the community might be a
good idea. Is there another way you could see doing this? Is there a DSL format that might get us to where we want?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Ideas that have been thought of included creating a variable that is already just the 4 characters we are after, but there
are dozens of fields that could hold this info and that would increase our data model which is already quite verbose. We also looked at allowing them to create a variable when they need it and then just reuse that in rules, but I’m not certain how we would
do this with as many fields.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">To add to it, the regular expression I listed is for one of the fields in these streams, we also have needs to pull out
other positions as well.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Your thoughts and ideas on this are appreciated.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thank you!</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dean Whisnant</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">basys, inc.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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