[seam-dev] BI integration

[Sanne Grinovero]

Hi Max,
the pentaho "suite" is distributed as a modified eclipse containing
the report designer,
and another one to create action sequences.
They can all be installed as plugins, or as prepackaged eclipses (as
Developer Studio)
coming with a ready-to-start JBoss preconfigured as a BI server, with
schedulers and
all needed stuff.

Sanne

2008/10/16 Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen at redhat.com>:
> BIRT has good Eclipse editing facilities...but has a really bad runtime
> size/setup.
>
> What does Pentaho and JasperReport have in context of Eclipse integration ?
>
> /max
>
>> please, don't forget Pentaho.
>> they were looking very good already, and are improving a lot and at a
>> very fast pace.
>> additionally they have strong bounds with JBoss, as it's the default
>> platform.
>>
>> Sanne
>>
>> 2008/10/13 Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com>:
>>>
>>> So, I guess the question is, do we want to do Jasper or BIRT?
>>> On 13 Oct 2008, at 20:48, Dan Allen wrote:
>>>
>>> Pete,
>>>
>>> I think the main focus here is on the responsibility of who creates the
>>> reports. The excel stuff is superb for developers who need to create
>>> reports
>>> for management, etc. The BI is about management designing the reports and
>>> the developers feeding the parameters to it from the UI (and all the
>>> security and context that goes along with it).
>>>
>>> The main focus for this relationship, and the one we should keep in mind
>>> when designing it, is that you want to try to break the need to wait on
>>> the
>>> developer to get a report through the system. Not only does this slow
>>> things
>>> down, it ties up developer resources. At my previous job, we had a huge
>>> problem with this because there was a neverending need to customize
>>> reports
>>> for customers and thus the process was not scalable. BI is about putting
>>> the
>>> consumers (or designers) of the reports in control.
>>>
>>> -Dan
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Snjezana has written some BIRT/Seam integration. But it needs a way to
>>>> be
>>>> used outside of Eclipse (she has no ant or maven targets, you must build
>>>> your project with Eclipse).
>>>>
>>>> But anyway, what does this offer over Seam PDF/Excel w/ VPE support?
>>>>
>>>> On 13 Oct 2008, at 19:47, Dan Allen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've brought up this point informally a couple of times, but I want to
>>>>> make a more formal statement. I think we need to put some sort of BI
>>>>> integration on the roadmap, mostly likely being with JasperReports.
>>>>> Perhaps we can start brainstorming on how this integration might look
>>>>> and then create some JIRAs for those features. For example, here's an
>>>>> article on how Spring integrates with JasperReports.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://java.dzone.com/articles/spring-web-mvc-spring-web-flow
>>>>>
>>>>> My intention is not to try to outdo Spring, but rather to say that we
>>>>> need to offer something native within Seam. I just spoke to former
>>>>> colleagues last week and they are using JasperServer with JSF, but
>>>>> mentioned that they had to do some glue code to get it all working
>>>>> together.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Dan
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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