[seam-dev] Re: Next Seam release
Pete Muir
pmuir at redhat.com
Wed Apr 1 18:04:36 EDT 2009
Ok, we now have a schedule:
Seam 2.1.2.CR1, Monday 13th April
Seam 2.1.2 Monday 27th April
Focus of Seam 2.1.2 is bug fixing
Seam 2.2.0.CR1, Monday 25th May
Seam 2.2.0 Monday 15th June
Focus of Seam 2.2 is upgrade to Drools 5 and to make jBPM pluggable so
that jBPM 4 can be substituted.
So, please get your fixes in for Seam 2.1.2 ASAP :-)
Pete
On 27 Mar 2009, at 17:58, Pete Muir wrote:
> Sorry to leave everyone hanging. Anne Louise is working on how we
> can best integrate Seam 2 w/ jBPM 4 / Drools 5 into EAP 5. We have a
> tentative plan, which should be finalised soon.
>
> On 18 Mar 2009, at 10:49, Pete Muir wrote:
>
>>
>> On 18 Mar 2009, at 07:51, Tom Baeyens wrote:
>>
>>> In my original plan, Pageflow was only targetted after July.
>>>
>>> Pete, if one of your people can drive the pageflow migration, then
>>> I can be there to guide it. That way we can move it forward to
>>> april.
>>
>> Yes, I think we can do that (I was assuming that was the plan
>> anyway).
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Including jBPM 4 beta as part of your GA might not be a good
>>> idea. jBPM database schema will change. And that could cause
>>> serious upgrade problems for SEAM users using jBPM. Also upgrade
>>> from jBPM 3 to jBPM 4 will be impossible for now.
>>
>> Can you tell us what the earliest release we should put in 2.2.0
>> is? And roughly what date we can target? If we don't have time to
>> do 2.2.0 and 2.2.1, I guess we could do:
>>
>> Seam 2.2.0.BETA1 - Wednesday 22nd April
>> Seam 2.2.0.CR1 - Wednesday 13th May
>> Seam 2.2.0 - Wednesday 17th June
>>
>> Tom and Anne-Louise, how do these dates fit your respective
>> schedules?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> regards, tom.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pete Muir wrote:
>>>> All,
>>>> This Drools upgrade, and a probable upgrade to jBPM 4 (happening
>>>> due to these products needed in the JBoss SOA platform 5, based
>>>> on EAP 5, which in turn includes Seam) mean that we need to make
>>>> the release Seam 2.2 (which I said would never happen, I know ;-)
>>>> Due to the concentration on Web Beans / Seam 3 there hasn't been
>>>> a huge amount of activity recently, however 2.2 will include:
>>>> * 112 issues closed (please direct your thanks to Norman here -
>>>> he has been soldiering away!)
>>>> * improvements to Seam-gen (Glassfish, IDEA etc.) from Dan
>>>> * big improvements to REST support - Christian and Jozef
>>>> * Drools and jBPM upgrades
>>>> So, I suggest that Norman and Marek (can you coordinate with each
>>>> other) handle the jBPM upgrade (Tom just released alpha2, and
>>>> plans the GA in the mid summer) - we should wait until there is a
>>>> beta out I think for Seam 2.2 GA... Tom, any rough guess when
>>>> this will be?
>>>> Assuming Tom has a beta, I propose this schedule:
>>>> Seam 2.2.0 CR1 - Wednesday 22nd April
>>>> Seam 2.2.0 - Wednesday 13th May
>>>> Seam 2.2.1 CR1 - Wednesday 17th June
>>>> Seam 2.2.1 - Wednesday 8th July (hopefully just after the jBPM GA)
>>>> This will be the first time for time-boxing our releases too,
>>>> something we are doing for Web Beans, and will do for Seam3.
>>>> Anne-Louise, could you please comment on how these dates fit with
>>>> EAP5 component freezes? Will we be able to get 2.2.1 in?
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>> From: "Stefano Travelli (JIRA)" <jira-events at lists.jboss.org>
>>>>> Date: 18 March 2009 00:23:22 GMT
>>>>> To: pete.muir at jboss.org
>>>>> Subject: [JBoss JIRA] Commented: (JBSEAM-4011) Upgrade Drools
>>>>> framework integration to version 5
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [ https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12457785
>>>>> #action_12457785 ]
>>>>>
>>>>> Stefano Travelli commented on JBSEAM-4011:
>>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know, drools 5 is not a drop in replacement of
>>>>> drools 4.0.7. Lots of dependencies change (mvel and antlr for
>>>>> instance) and most of all there are several API changes that
>>>>> make Seam after changeset #10170 not compatible with Drools 4
>>>>> forcing a migration to Drools 5 in the run time environment of
>>>>> existing applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> At least, a detailed migration path for existing application is
>>>>> needed. However, even after accomplished all dependencies, rules
>>>>> in my application don't compile anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, in my opinion this upgrade is unfitted for a
>>>>> maintenance release of Seam.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to version 5
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Key: JBSEAM-4011
>>>>>> URL: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011
>>>>>> Project: Seam
>>>>>> Issue Type: Feature Request
>>>>>> Components: Drools
>>>>>> Reporter: Marek Novotny
>>>>>> Assignee: Marek Novotny
>>>>>> Fix For: 2.1.2.CR1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to current development
>>>>>> version of Drools 5. It is now available 5.0.0.CR1 version.
>>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> regards, tom.
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