[seam-dev] Re: Next Seam release

Thu Apr 2 04:25:43 EDT 2009

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Pete Muir napsal(a):
> I blogged about release plans:
> 
> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/TheStateOfSeam
> 
> Marek, can you roll back the Drools 5 upgrade in trunk for now? We'll
> branch after in the release for 2.1/2.2.
OK, I will do.

> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Pete Muir wrote:
>> Sorry to leave everyone hanging. Anne Louise is working on how we can
>> best integrate Seam 2 w/ jBPM 4 / Drools 5 into EAP 5. We have a
>> tentative plan, which should be finalised soon.
>>
>> On 18 Mar 2009, at 10:49, Pete Muir wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 18 Mar 2009, at 07:51, Tom Baeyens wrote:
>>>
>>>> In my original plan, Pageflow was only targetted after July.
>>>>
>>>> Pete, if one of your people can drive the pageflow migration, then I
>>>> can be there to guide it.  That way we can move it forward to april.
>>>
>>> Yes, I think we can do that (I was assuming that was the plan anyway).
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Including jBPM 4 beta as part of your GA might not be a good idea. 
>>>> jBPM database schema will change.  And that could cause serious
>>>> upgrade problems for SEAM users using jBPM.  Also upgrade from jBPM
>>>> 3 to jBPM 4 will be impossible for now.
>>>
>>> Can you tell us what the earliest release we should put in 2.2.0 is?
>>> And roughly what date we can target? If we don't have time to do
>>> 2.2.0 and 2.2.1, I guess we could do:
>>>
>>> Seam 2.2.0.BETA1 - Wednesday 22nd April
>>> Seam 2.2.0.CR1 - Wednesday 13th May
>>> Seam 2.2.0  - Wednesday 17th June
>>>
>>> Tom and Anne-Louise, how do these dates fit your respective schedules?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> regards, tom.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pete Muir wrote:
>>>>> All,
>>>>> This Drools upgrade, and a probable upgrade to jBPM 4 (happening
>>>>> due to these products needed in the JBoss SOA platform 5, based on
>>>>> EAP 5, which in turn includes Seam) mean that we need to make the
>>>>> release Seam 2.2 (which I said would never happen, I know ;-)
>>>>> Due to the concentration on Web Beans / Seam 3 there hasn't been a
>>>>> huge amount of activity recently, however 2.2 will include:
>>>>> * 112 issues closed (please direct your thanks to Norman here - he
>>>>> has been soldiering away!)
>>>>> * improvements to Seam-gen (Glassfish, IDEA etc.) from Dan
>>>>> * big improvements to REST support - Christian and Jozef
>>>>> * Drools and jBPM upgrades
>>>>> So, I suggest that Norman and Marek (can you coordinate with each
>>>>> other) handle the jBPM upgrade (Tom just released alpha2, and plans
>>>>> the GA in the mid summer) - we should wait until there is a beta
>>>>> out I think for Seam 2.2 GA... Tom, any rough guess when this will be?
>>>>> Assuming Tom has a beta, I propose this schedule:
>>>>> Seam 2.2.0 CR1 - Wednesday 22nd April
>>>>> Seam 2.2.0 - Wednesday 13th May
>>>>> Seam 2.2.1 CR1 - Wednesday 17th June
>>>>> Seam 2.2.1 - Wednesday 8th July (hopefully just after the jBPM GA)
>>>>> This will be the first time for time-boxing our releases too,
>>>>> something we are doing for Web Beans, and will do for Seam3.
>>>>> Anne-Louise, could you please comment on how these dates fit with
>>>>> EAP5 component freezes? Will we be able to get 2.2.1 in?
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>> From: "Stefano Travelli (JIRA)" <jira-events at lists.jboss.org>
>>>>>> Date: 18 March 2009 00:23:22 GMT
>>>>>> To: pete.muir at jboss.org
>>>>>> Subject: [JBoss JIRA] Commented: (JBSEAM-4011) Upgrade Drools
>>>>>> framework integration to version 5
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  [
>>>>>> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12457785#action_12457785
>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stefano Travelli commented on JBSEAM-4011:
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as I know, drools 5 is not a drop in replacement of drools
>>>>>> 4.0.7. Lots of dependencies change (mvel and antlr for instance)
>>>>>> and most of all there are several API changes that make Seam after
>>>>>> changeset #10170 not compatible with Drools 4 forcing a migration
>>>>>> to Drools 5 in the run time environment of existing applications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At least, a detailed migration path for existing application is
>>>>>> needed. However, even after accomplished all dependencies, rules
>>>>>> in my application don't compile anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, in my opinion this upgrade is unfitted for a maintenance
>>>>>> release of Seam.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to version 5
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              Key: JBSEAM-4011
>>>>>>>              URL: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011
>>>>>>>          Project: Seam
>>>>>>>       Issue Type: Feature Request
>>>>>>>       Components: Drools
>>>>>>>         Reporter: Marek Novotny
>>>>>>>         Assignee: Marek Novotny
>>>>>>>          Fix For: 2.1.2.CR1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to current development
>>>>>>> version of Drools 5. It is now available 5.0.0.CR1 version.
>>>>>>
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>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Pete Muir
>>>>> http://www.seamframework.org
>>>>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> regards, tom.
>>>>
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