[seam-dev] Re: Form, Input Elements and SeamText

Jay Balunas tech4j at gmail.com
Mon Mar 2 14:09:57 EST 2009


On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Nick Belaevski <nbelaevski at exadel.com>wrote:

>  Jay Balunas wrote:
>
> I believe that the editor component should be open to support any number of
> markup formats.  It should be the option of the user as to what is
> converted.  I like the idea of using jsf converters.  It could allow people
> to really generate their own conversion support. However this is not how it
> is currently designed.  atm it uses a simple flag for "useSeamText".
>  Created: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/RF-6452
>
>  -Jay
>
>   It's possible to use any converter with rich:editor. If user sets
> useSeamText=true and doesn't provide his own converter, then rich:editor
> implicitly creates instance of default SeamText converter and uses it. So
> the user can provide his own implementation of converter for SeamText or for
> any other arbitrary markup language.
>

Are you referring to the converter attribute here: "
http://livedemo.exadel.com/richfaces-demo/richfaces/editor.jsf?c=editor&tab=info".
 It looked like a straight carry over of the tag description from the base.

Is there an example of this?  We need to make this more obvious and perhaps
provide some examples of how to use it.

Also- if this is the case then "useSeamText" is really "useConverter" in
which case we not need it since we should be able to tell is it is set or
not.  Do you agree?


>
>
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm digging up an old thread here...
>>
>> Would it be possible for the tinyMCE component to output a more standard
>> wiki syntax as well, such as textile (
>> http://www.textism.com/tools/textile/)? As complete as it may be, the
>> Seam formatted text is yet another wiki syntax and the world has so many
>> already. For people using Seam in an existing system/environment, it may be
>> necessary to adapt. We can't support every syntax, but we can pick the most
>> prevalent.
>>
>> Also, when I imagine how this component would work, I figured that all the
>> conversation is handled by the JSF life cycle.
>>
>> When the editor is loaded wiki text is converted to html and displayed in
>> the TinyMCE editor
>> When the form is saved, the html is converted to wiki text and copied back
>> to the model
>>
>> You do stand to lose some control with this approach if the wiki syntax
>> has special hooks. But then again, if someone wants that contorl, I suppose
>> they can just edit the wiki text directly.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Jay Balunas <tech4j at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Christian,
>>>
>>> They are developing a richfaces component that implements tinyMCE (
>>> http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/) as a JSF component.
>>>
>>> The goal is that it also supports seam text conversion on the server side
>>> (afaict) which is why they are bringing up questions on proper conversion.
>>>
>>> Two places where I have run into the issue below is when creating an
>>> outline/draft document that I am not ready to post, but want to save, the
>>> other is when I have a section that I do not need introduction text for and
>>> would instead like to begin the first sub-section immediately.
>>>
>>> +header 1
>>> ++header 2
>>>
>>> Is this a change to seam text grammar that would be acceptable?
>>>
>>> -Jay
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Christian Bauer <cbauer at redhat.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 03, 2008, at 14:33 , Ilya Shaikovsky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  html allows us to use next code
>>>>>
>>>>> <h1>header 1<h1>
>>>>> <h2>header 2<h2>
>>>>>
>>>>> but next code
>>>>>
>>>>> +header 1
>>>>> ++header 2
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  It wasn't done on purpose but I'm quite happy with requiring text
>>>> between headlines. That's how real texts are written, it's good style.
>>>>
>>>>  How about your opinion on this?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I have no idea what you guys are doing but if you want to submit
>>>> reasonable changes to the seam-text.grammar, go
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>>  Dan Allen
>> Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
>>
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>   Nick Belaevski
>
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