[seam-dev] Meeting 2011-08-17

[Shane Bryzak]

I think this would over-complicate things.  I've got no problem with 
telling our users that they must declare a dependency for a module's 
API, and a dependency for the IMPL they want to use, if that's what we 
decide.

On 17/08/11 13:12, John D. Ament wrote:
>
> What if every module had a bom that was imported, or if this were 
> handled in the seam-bom?
>
> John
>
> On Aug 16, 2011 11:06 PM, "Dan Allen" <dan.j.allen at gmail.com 
> <mailto:dan.j.allen at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 22:57, Shane Bryzak <sbryzak at redhat.com 
> <mailto:sbryzak at redhat.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> Of course, but we break that rule. Solder is one example, there's
> >> multiple utility classes in the implementation that are required to 
> compile
> >> other modules.
> >>
> >
> > I consider that a bug (or a work in progress, depending on how you 
> look at
> > it).
> >
> >
> >> Also, by making the implementation runtime-only, the user is forced to
> >> declare two dependencies for their project, one for the API and one 
> for the
> >> implementation. If the implementation was compile-scoped, they 
> could just
> >> declare the implementation dependency and the API would then be 
> pulled in
> >> automatically. This is the kind of stuff we need to discuss and 
> come to a
> >> resolution on.
> >>
> >
> > Again, I don't think one dependency is a holy grail. We are making an
> > optimization that I don't find necessary. Making an implementation
> > compile-scoped could be classified as careless programming (by some 
> strict
> > architects, let's say).
> >
> > If it's setup correctly, depending on seam-faces (the impl) should 
> make it a
> > runtime dep, make the api compile time, make any dependent api 
> compile time
> > and make any dependency impl runtime. If Maven can't accommodate 
> that, then
> > it's just a pita (even then, the worse thing that happens is that 
> the user
> > has two dependencies).
> >
> > -Dan
> >
> > --
> > Dan Allen
> > Principal Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
> > Registered Linux User #231597
> >
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