[seam-dev] Arquillian update

John D. Ament john.d.ament at gmail.com
Mon Jul 11 20:06:16 EDT 2011 

Because Ken wrote..

"I believe this should be possible by having base tests that define what the
test does (in terms of the Seam JMS classes) and then separate tests that
extend the base to add the specific libraries for that scenario"

Right now there are 22 test classes covering 73 test cases.  I do want to
multiply this out, hoping that I can do 22 test classes supporting 280+ test
cases.

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Jason Porter <lightguard.jp at gmail.com>wrote:

> No sure why you would need to create all the extra classes. Why are you
> thinking you need to do that?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:45, "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I guess at a high level, yes it would be.  However, I was trying to avoid
> creating 60 additional classes to support the idea.  Essentially there would
> be
>
> testsuite
> se-owb-activemq
> se-weld-openmq
> se-weld-hornetq
>
>
>
> John
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Ken Finnigan < <ken at kenfinnigan.me>
> ken at kenfinnigan.me> wrote:
>
>> Yes it is a new structure for a Seam module for container testing.
>>
>> Do you mean that you would want to run the three below scenarios, for all
>> tests, against whichever containers you define (ie. AS7, SE, etc)?  I
>> believe this should be possible by having base tests that define what the
>> test does (in terms of the Seam JMS classes) and then separate tests that
>> extend the base to add the specific libraries for that scenario, ie OWB +
>> Apache ActiveMQ, which can then be further specialized for any specific
>> container configuration that is required.
>>
>> So I would see you needing something like:
>>
>> \testsuite
>>     \internals
>>         \base (holds the base test cases, with the extended versions for
>> each scenario of CDI/JMS provider combos)
>>         \jboss (profile for as7, with test case extended from the base
>> that holds specific container config)
>>         \tomcat (profile plus test extended with container specific
>> config.
>>
>> You can then have as many container modules as you want.
>>
>> Does that make sense?
>>
>> Over the next day or two I'll be completing the migration of i18n to
>> option 3 so that it can be used as a base for other modules.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 1:35 PM, John D. Ament < <john.d.ament at gmail.com>
>> john.d.ament at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So what exactly is this?  Is this a new structure to support testing?
>>>
>>> Here's something I'm interested in.  I want to be able to test seam JMS
>>> in an SE type of environment, potentially with starting the JMS server in
>>> the same VM or a separate VM.  Part of this requires special modules in Seam
>>> JMS that connect to remote JMS providers, some of this requires special
>>> testing scenarios.  Ideally, I would want to run the full test suite
>>> repeatedly for each matching pair.  For example:
>>>
>>> Seam JMS + OWB + Apache ActiveMQ
>>> Seam JMS + Weld + Hornetq
>>> Seam JMS + Weld + OpenMQ
>>>
>>> Is this approach attainable through this setup?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Jason Porter < <http://lightguard.jp>
>>> lightguard.jp@ <http://gmail.com>gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm liking #3
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 8, 2011, at 9:28, Ken Finnigan < <ken at kenfinnigan.me>
>>>> ken at kenfinnigan.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've been doing some further thinking around this over the last couple
>>>> of days and have come up with 3 possible structures (there are undoubtedly
>>>> more but that is as far as my brain got!):
>>>>
>>>> 1) The original idea below.  ie.
>>>> \testsuite
>>>>     \api
>>>>     \internals
>>>>     \smoke
>>>>
>>>> This setup requires each container, and version there of, to be a
>>>> separate profile.  Container specific tests can be excluded with surefire.
>>>>
>>>> This does get quite messy quickly if there are lots of containers, and
>>>> lots of container specific tests that need to be written (ie. lots of
>>>> exclusions in profiles for tests you don't want to run)
>>>>
>>>> 2) More along the lines of Seam Persistence.  ie.
>>>> \testsuite
>>>>     \base
>>>>     \jboss
>>>>     \weld-embedded
>>>>     \jetty
>>>>
>>>> Each version of a container will have their own profile within a
>>>> container module.
>>>>
>>>> This nicely breaks down the containers, but makes it difficult to know
>>>> what pieces of a module (ie. API, internals, etc) are being tested on each
>>>> container.
>>>>
>>>> 3) A hybrid approach ie.
>>>> \testsuite
>>>>     \base or common
>>>>     \internals
>>>>         \base
>>>>         \jboss
>>>>         \jetty
>>>>
>>>> We could either go with a base/common module at the root of testsuite,
>>>> which would hold utilities for artifact creation and all common tests or
>>>> base tests for all modules, and/or a base/common for each submodule (ie.
>>>> api, internals).  Could take either approach, but a single base/common at
>>>> the testsuite root may make it simpler.
>>>>
>>>> Each container module would then have a profile for each version, with
>>>> the version of a container that you want to test as part of builds set to be
>>>> active by default.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm personally leaning towards 3 as it gives us a breakdown of types of
>>>> testing, api, internals, smoke, cluster, etc while also providing a
>>>> breakdown of container specific test requirements.
>>>>
>>>> Note: All pure unit tests that do not require a container would still
>>>> remain in the appropriate module, ie. api or impl, of the project.
>>>>
>>>> Any other options anyone can think of, or tweaks to any of the above
>>>> options?
>>>>
>>>> What does everyone think?
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Jason Porter < <http://lightguard.jp><http://lightguard.jp>
>>>> lightguard.jp@ <http://gmail.com> <http://gmail.com>gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Adding the rest of the list as I think we're nearing the point we want
>>>>> some more feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:35, Ken Finnigan < <ken at kenfinnigan.me><ken at kenfinnigan.me>
>>>>> ken at kenfinnigan.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nasty, read the irc log, not nice at all on AS7 part!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the moment I have a structure similar to persistence, but more
>>>>>> following AS7. ie:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> \module_parent
>>>>>>     \api
>>>>>>     \impl
>>>>>>     \testsuite
>>>>>>         \api
>>>>>>         \benchmark
>>>>>>         \clustering
>>>>>>         \internals
>>>>>>         \smoke
>>>>>>         \stress
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I like the ideas, but I think the structure should be along the lines
>>>>> of the containers (perhaps in addition to, if we're going to test things
>>>>> like clustering and perf).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Idea being that pure unit tests (ie. no container) remain within
>>>>>> either api/impl modules, then any container testing falls within the
>>>>>> testsuite somewhere.  Default test only runs api, internals and smoke,
>>>>>> others are picked up by a profile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Having the different containers be different test modules also gets us
>>>>> away from having to rely on a profile (so you could run each set of tests in
>>>>> one go instead of multiple invocations or lots of profiles).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> At present most of these folders are just ideas about the kinds of
>>>>>> tests we could do (along the AS7 lines), but they seemed appropriate.
>>>>>> Existing i18n module tests are now in internals for testing the
>>>>>> implementation.  I see smoke as being more comprehensive tests covering
>>>>>> combined use of features in the module, and quite possibly integration with
>>>>>> other modules too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I do kind of like the idea of all the tests being inside the test
>>>>> suite, but I'm also okay with basic unit tests living in api and impl. I
>>>>> think we probably need to do some lifecycle tweaking and have those tests
>>>>> under the testsuite run under the integration phase like Solder.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Which container is run is then all down to profile.  Not sure whether
>>>>>> to continue with embedded weld being the default container that is run when
>>>>>> no profile is specified, or to force a profile to be specified for any
>>>>>> container testing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also had another thought today as to whether the poms for the test
>>>>>> modules should define dependencies, or whether dependent libraries should be
>>>>>> added directly to deployment artifact as library to prevent unintended
>>>>>> libraries from appearing on test classpath.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If we go with test modules instead of profiles this becomes a non issue
>>>>> as they'd just be test deps for the module.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Jason Porter <<http://lightguard.jp><http://lightguard.jp>
>>>>>> lightguard.jp@ <http://gmail.com> <http://gmail.com>gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very cool. I got stuff working for catch last night too, but there is
>>>>>>> a problem if you're testing deployment errors. It's actually an AS7 and
>>>>>>> Arquillian issue. I've opened JIRA tickets about both. I think what we'll
>>>>>>> want to do is set up testing similar to what Stuart has done in Persistence
>>>>>>> with multiple modules. We'll eventually want to test in (probably) embedded
>>>>>>> weld (it's runs quickly, could probably be like a smoke test), JBoss AS7,
>>>>>>> AS6, GF 3.1, Resin and an OWB container or embedded OWB. Not all of those
>>>>>>> containers work right now but then we really could say we know it all works
>>>>>>> on each CDI impl.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 7:44, Ken Finnigan < <ken at kenfinnigan.me><ken at kenfinnigan.me>
>>>>>>> ken at kenfinnigan.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I actually "stole" some day job time to try at work as I thought the
>>>>>>> problem might be caused by the local build of as7 I had in my repo, but that
>>>>>>> wasn't it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Figured out the problem I was having with the aether class not being
>>>>>>> found was caused by the arquillian junit container dependency being
>>>>>>> specified in a parent pom, and then the managed container being specified in
>>>>>>> the pom running the tests, which meant Maven decided the versions of the
>>>>>>> jars in the pom running the tests should take precedence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adding the junit container dependency to the pom running the tests
>>>>>>> fixed that problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should be able to finish up the test setup some time tonight to then
>>>>>>> forward to the mailing list for review.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Jason Porter <<http://lightguard.jp><http://lightguard.jp><http://lightguard.jp>
>>>>>>> lightguard.jp@ <http://gmail.com> <http://gmail.com><http://gmail.com>
>>>>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure, you let me know a time. I'm working on getting Catch up to
>>>>>>>> date as well. BTW, Arquillian 1.0.0.Final will be out tomorrow, not sure
>>>>>>>> about container support though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 20:22, Ken Finnigan < <ken at kenfinnigan.me><ken at kenfinnigan.me><ken at kenfinnigan.me>
>>>>>>>> ken at kenfinnigan.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jason,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you have some time tomorrow it would be appreciated if you could
>>>>>>>>> take a look at the new testsuite setup on i18n.  Here's the branch: git://<http://github.com/kenfinnigan/international.git><http://github.com/kenfinnigan/international.git><http://github.com/kenfinnigan/international.git>
>>>>>>>>> github.com/kenfinnigan/international.git
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I thought I was making progress but now I seem to have managed to
>>>>>>>>> move backwards!  For some reason I keep getting a NoClassDef errors on
>>>>>>>>> aether classes.  It appears that the classes are brought in correctly from
>>>>>>>>> the arquillian junit container (from shrinkwrap beta 3), but then the jboss
>>>>>>>>> as managed container brings in an older version of shrinkwrap that doesn't
>>>>>>>>> include aether.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm sure it's a simple fix, as I've mirrored it off confbuzz,
>>>>>>>>> servlet and rest, as well as jbossas, that all run as7 arquillian tests, but
>>>>>>>>> can't see the wood for the trees tonight.  Will be looking at it again
>>>>>>>>> tomorrow evening, but if you can spot an easy fix that would be great!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Jason Porter <<http://lightguard.jp><http://lightguard.jp><http://lightguard.jp>
>>>>>>>>> lightguard.jp@ <http://gmail.com> <http://gmail.com><http://gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Okay, great. Let me or Dan know if you need some help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:37, Ken Finnigan < <ken at kenfinnigan.me><ken at kenfinnigan.me><ken at kenfinnigan.me>
>>>>>>>>>> ken at kenfinnigan.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pretty good.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Have the basic structure for the module in terms of what needs to
>>>>>>>>>>> go where.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Currently going through and getting the existing i18n tests
>>>>>>>>>>> working in AS7, which is proving more of a challenge than I expected!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Of all the tests that pass in weld-ee-embedded, about a third
>>>>>>>>>>> actually pass in AS7!  Most of it, I think, is down to differing classpaths,
>>>>>>>>>>> but should be in a position to push the feature branch to my fork of i18n in
>>>>>>>>>>> a couple of days.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Once I've pushed it to my fork I was going to send an email to
>>>>>>>>>>> everyone on seam-dev to get their thoughts on the layout/setup for testing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> btw, you don't need to worry about cc'ing my sorstech email in
>>>>>>>>>>> the future as I don't use that much anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Jason Porter <<http://lightguard.jp><http://lightguard.jp><http://lightguard.jp>
>>>>>>>>>>> lightguard.jp@ <http://gmail.com> <http://gmail.com><http://gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How goes things with i18n and the new Arquillian?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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