[teiid-dev] [teiid-users] Alternative scripting envrionment for AdminShell

[John Doyle]

----- "Steven Hawkins" <shawkins at redhat.com> wrote:

> It doesn't seem like we have yet reached a consensus, but it does seem
> like:
> 1. people do like having a SQL oriented interactive command line
> tool.
> 2. most see the SQL functionality as separable from the admin/test.
> 
> Agreed?

Yes.

> 
> I'd also like to relay a local discussion with Ramesh.  His basic
> premise was that if we decouple the admin/test aspects and promote an
> alternative command line SQL tool, then we should just forgo offering
> any built-in environment for administrative scripting.  In this case
> the approach would be to just document which class/classes could be
> imported (as shown in the previous Groovy example with the static
> import of AdminShell methods) into your java scripting language of
> choice.

Nice open solution.  I like it.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ramesh Reddy" <rareddy at redhat.com>
> To: "John Doyle" <jdoyle at redhat.com>
> Cc: "Steven Hawkins" <shawkins at redhat.com>, "teiid-users"
> <teiid-users at lists.jboss.org>, "teiid-dev"
> <teiid-dev at lists.jboss.org>, "Paul Nittel" <pnittel at redhat.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:41:49 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [teiid-users] [teiid-dev] Alternative scripting
> envrionment for AdminShell
> 
> On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 09:27 -0400, John Doyle wrote:
> > You nailed my concern Steve.  I've never actually used AdminShell
> for
> > admin tasks, I use it like 
> > SQL*PLUS.  I think there are probably more reasons to separate
> these
> > concerns than to combine them.  I haven't looked at either of the
> two
> > tools you linked to, but if we can validate that one of them works
> > well enough then I think that should be sufficient for a query tool
> > for Teiid.
> > 
> > I think the added verbosity of the groovy solution is more
> acceptable
> > for an admin tool than for a query tool, and is worth it given the
> > added capabilities that multiple connections offer. 
> 
> Please take integration test and write using this tool, and you will
> see
> the reasons for this added verbosity.
> 
> Ramesh..