[wildfly-dev] SDDS (Silly Deployment Detector Subsystem)

Nicklas Karlsson nickarls at gmail.com
Thu May 23 06:27:08 EDT 2013


Embedded AS! ;-)

But yes, that's another good sanity check. I don't know if it's been fixed
in Weld/AS but at some point you got ambiguous resolves for CDI when you
had beans.xml in both places in the WAR.


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Paul Robinson <paul.robinson at redhat.com>wrote:

> Nicklas,
>
> Like others this is something I've wanted for some time. There was some
> interesting discussion on the following thread. I'll copy my original
> thoughts here. Apologies in advance to the "JEE Police", I was young and
> naive ;-)
>
> "[jboss-as7-dev] Detecting deployment location errors for xml files using
> a JEE schema".
>
> A common problem I see again and again is when people miss-spell the
> filenames of XML artefacts that live in the META-INF and WEB-INF
> directories of a JEE archive. I also see people (myself included)
> putting these artefacts in the wrong location, For example, putting the
> beans.xml file in the META-INF of a .war when it belongs in the WEB-INF.
>
>
> Also a student, on a course I teach, tried to deploy AS7 into AS7! That
> was fun to debug. Would you be able to spot that ;-)
>
> Paul.
>
>
> On 22 May 2013, at 08:22, Nicklas Karlsson <nickarls at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> (I know there has been some discussion on the topic (old community AS7-dev
> postings, IRC-chat with Tomaz Cerar etc)
>
>      Hanging around the forums, I've noticed that a frequent source of
> hard-to-debug deployment problems and other non-linear-behavior is that
> people often try to deploy archives with conflicting dependencies (various
> EE APIs/impls already on the AS, JDBC drivers, maven plugins, you name it).
>
>     Would it be worthwhile to implement a deployment processor (disabled
> by default) that would act as a helpful bouncer for the deployment archive?
> We could have a simple isSane(Archive) interface or something and people
> could write their own implementations (that would be picked up through the
> java services system or listed explicitly in some module?). Default
> implementation that come to mind is
>
> * Blacklisted packages (using Tattletale to warn users if they are
> bundling e.g. EE impls/APIs)
> * Version limiter (using Tattletale to warn if deployment contains too old
> version of lib, e.g. Spring)
> * Unused libs (using Tattletale to warn if deployment contains unused jars)
> * Server provided libs (using Tattletale and JBoss Modules) to show which
> dependencies could be handled by a server module dependency)
>
> I'm not sure JBoss Modules contains any "directory" for
> which-modules-provides functionality but I guess the module root could be
> scanned and the resources indexed or something. Performance would not be an
> issue because it's still going to be faster that a user playing around with
> dependencies for days.
>
> Thoughts?
>
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