[wildfly-dev] SDDS (Silly Deployment Detector Subsystem)

[Nicklas Karlsson]

Does anyone know if the code is available somewhere on github? No, Tomaz,
don't you reply - you should be on the beach ;-)


On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Jaikiran Pai <jpai at redhat.com> wrote:

>  Tomaz is on vacation. He will be at JUDCon in Boston in June and as far
> as I know this is exactly the topic that he will be talking/demonstrating
> with a custom subsystem implementation. It's scheduled for June 10th
> "WildFly extenstions in action"
> http://www.jboss.org/events/JUDCon/2013/unitedstates/agenda/day2track1.html
>
> -Jaikiran
>
> On Tuesday 28 May 2013 12:10 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote:
>
> Tomaz, did you ever get around to starting on your own implementation you
> once mentioned?
>
>
>  On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Nicklas Karlsson <nickarls at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Embedded AS! ;-)
>>
>>  But yes, that's another good sanity check. I don't know if it's been
>> fixed in Weld/AS but at some point you got ambiguous resolves for CDI when
>> you had beans.xml in both places in the WAR.
>>
>>
>>  On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Paul Robinson <
>> paul.robinson at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nicklas,
>>>
>>>  Like others this is something I've wanted for some time. There was
>>> some interesting discussion on the following thread. I'll copy my original
>>> thoughts here. Apologies in advance to the "JEE Police", I was young and
>>> naive ;-)
>>>
>>>  "[jboss-as7-dev] Detecting deployment location errors for xml files
>>> using a JEE schema".
>>>
>>>  A common problem I see again and again is when people miss-spell the
>>>  filenames of XML artefacts that live in the META-INF and WEB-INF
>>> directories of a JEE archive. I also see people (myself included)
>>> putting these artefacts in the wrong location, For example, putting the
>>> beans.xml file in the META-INF of a .war when it belongs in the WEB-INF.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Also a student, on a course I teach, tried to deploy AS7 into AS7!
>>> That was fun to debug. Would you be able to spot that ;-)
>>>
>>>  Paul.
>>>
>>>
>>>   On 22 May 2013, at 08:22, Nicklas Karlsson <nickarls at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>     (I know there has been some discussion on the topic (old community
>>> AS7-dev postings, IRC-chat with Tomaz Cerar etc)
>>>
>>>       Hanging around the forums, I've noticed that a frequent source of
>>> hard-to-debug deployment problems and other non-linear-behavior is that
>>> people often try to deploy archives with conflicting dependencies (various
>>> EE APIs/impls already on the AS, JDBC drivers, maven plugins, you name it).
>>>
>>>      Would it be worthwhile to implement a deployment processor
>>> (disabled by default) that would act as a helpful bouncer for the
>>> deployment archive? We could have a simple isSane(Archive) interface or
>>> something and people could write their own implementations (that would be
>>> picked up through the java services system or listed explicitly in some
>>> module?). Default implementation that come to mind is
>>>
>>>  * Blacklisted packages (using Tattletale to warn users if they are
>>> bundling e.g. EE impls/APIs)
>>> * Version limiter (using Tattletale to warn if deployment contains too
>>> old version of lib, e.g. Spring)
>>> * Unused libs (using Tattletale to warn if deployment contains unused
>>> jars)
>>> * Server provided libs (using Tattletale and JBoss Modules) to show
>>> which dependencies could be handled by a server module dependency)
>>>
>>>  I'm not sure JBoss Modules contains any "directory" for
>>> which-modules-provides functionality but I guess the module root could be
>>> scanned and the resources indexed or something. Performance would not be an
>>> issue because it's still going to be faster that a user playing around with
>>> dependencies for days.
>>>
>>>  Thoughts?
>>>
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>>
>>
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