[wildfly-dev] Fwd: dzone rant on resteasy/modules

[Jason Greene]

I think the problem is that RestEasy has N extensions (plugins) per 1 subsystem. So the generic subsystem exclude doesn’t really match.

On Feb 7, 2014, at 4:28 PM, David M. Lloyd <david.lloyd at redhat.com> wrote:

> Right now JBoss Modules acts purely on paths, so when you import 
> something you specify what paths to filter out.  This is why I say using 
> aggregate modules is a bad idea.  It makes more sense to have a 
> user-friendly name for conceptual imports.  For example either I want 
> resteasy (in which case I want all the imports that I need, even if I 
> don't know I need them (and I won't if I'm a normal user)), or I don't 
> (in which case I want nothing).   Why not categorize imports by 
> subsystem and have the flag for the subsystem actually exclude the 
> imports as the user expects?
> 
> On 02/07/2014 04:14 PM, Bill Burke wrote:
>> I've had this conversation with Stuart before about resteasy modules.
>> We didn't come to a conclusion as there's pro's and con's each way.
>> BTW,  You can't exclude exports, which is the very same problem we're
>> seeing with ee spec module.
>> 
>> IMO, the problem is with JBoss Modules.  If you add an exclude for a
>> module, you should expect that module to be excluded.  Even if that
>> module is exported by an implicit dependency.
>> 
>> On 2/7/2014 4:58 PM, Tomaž Cerar wrote:
>>> On semi related note, why does app need direct dependancy to all 10+
>>> rest easy modules?
>>> couldn't that be done by simply having one/two dependancies that than
>>> have all the other deps exported?
>>> 
>>> that way it would be much easier to override whole rest easy version.
>>> 
>>> but ee spec issue still remains...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Bill Burke <bburke at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:bburke at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>     Chris sent me this rant on overriding built in Resteasy.  I replied how
>>>     to fix it on his blog.  The biggest problem is javaee.api which sucks in
>>>     every EE API.  Is there a reason you don't trust the subsystems to suck
>>>     in the EE APIs they need?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     -------- Original Message --------
>>>     Subject: dzone rant on resteasy/modules
>>>     Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 13:49:02 -0500
>>>     From: Chris Bredesen <cbredesen at redhat.com
>>>     <mailto:cbredesen at redhat.com>>
>>>     To: Bill Burke <bburke at redhat.com <mailto:bburke at redhat.com>>
>>> 
>>>     Just saw this by accident, have fun!
>>> 
>>>     http://java.dzone.com/articles/jboss-modules-suck-it%E2%80%99s
>>> 
>>>     -CB
>>> 
>>>     --
>>>     Chris Bredesen
>>>     Supervisor, Software Engineering
>>>     Red Hat Global Support Services
>>> 
>>>     --
>>>     Bill Burke
>>>     JBoss, a division of Red Hat
>>>     http://bill.burkecentral.com
>>> 
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