[wildfly-dev] EJB Transactions Graceful Shutdown

Stuart Douglas stuart.w.douglas at gmail.com
Mon Dec 5 23:54:30 EST 2016


On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Andrig Miller <anmiller at redhat.com> wrote:

> I'm just wondering if we are making this graceful shutdown more
> complicated than necessary.
>
> Why wouldn't we just cancel and force a rollback on any active
> transactions when shutting down?  Having experienced what a graceful
> shutdown can look like with a different architecture (BEA Tuxedo), I can
> tell you that it can take a very long time for the server to get to the
> point of shutting down, and appear to be hung by the administrator,
> depending on what was going on at the time the command was entered.
>


I think at the very least this has to be optional, so we can still have the
old non transnational behavior (i.e. wait for requests to finish rather
than transactions).

Stuart


>
> We used to get administrators killing Tuxedo while it was "gracefully"
> shutting down, and messing lots of stuff up.
>
> Andy
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Flavia Rainone <frainone at redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think we can keep open transaction tracking only inside transactions
>> subsystem while we are not shutting down, and then we can enroll for
>> notification of open active transactions only on suspend if needed... IMHO
>> that's as clean as we can get regarding shutdown code when the server is in
>> running state.
>>
>> I would go with some sort of ActiveTransactionListener, that would be
>> notified of no more active transactions only if the listener is set?
>>
>> Something along the lines below at ejb side:
>>
>> ServerActivityCallback callback = null;
>>
>> public void suspend(ServerActivityCallback callback) {
>>     if ( transactionSubsystem.getActiveTransactions() > 0) {
>>        transactionSubsystem.setActiveTransactionsListener(this);
>>     }
>>     else {
>>       callback.done(); // done suspending
>>    }
>> }
>>
>> // listener method
>> public void noMoreActiveTransactions() {
>>     callback.done(); // done suspending
>>     // then we let control point notify clients that this node is no
>> longer available
>>     ...
>> }
>>
>> At transactions side:
>> ActiveTransactionListener listener = null;
>>
>> private void incrementTxnCount() {
>>     ...
>> }
>>
>> private void decrementTxnCount() {
>>    if (txnCountUpdater.decrementAndGet() == 0 && listener != null)
>>        listener.noMoreActiveTransactions();
>> }
>>
>> public int getActiveTransactions() {
>>    return txnCountUpdater.get();
>>
>> }
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04-12-2016 20:39, Stuart Douglas wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 3:40 AM, Flavia Rainone <frainone at redhat.com> <frainone at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm creating this thread to discuss the remaining details of graceful
>> shutdown for ejb transactions.
>>
>> This is more or less what I've done so far:
>> https://github.com/fl4via/wildfly/commit/7017146522af9a979a8a8e0c92039e6a5fb18760
>>
>> While discussing this in the hip chat yesterday, Stuart mentioned that maybe
>> we could have the transactions subsystem responsible for keeping track of
>> how many active transactions we have, instead of putting that code in
>> EjbRemoteTransactionsRepository.
>>
>> Stuart, does that include having the suspend callback being done at
>> transactions subsystem as well? I'm thinking maybe not, because there are
>> two points in the ejb subsystem we need to know if transactions suspension
>> is over:
>>
>>
>> No, that still has to be handled at an EJB subsystem level.
>> Conceptually this is similar to what was done for the XTS subsytem, so
>> it should probably use a similar design. Ideally while the server is
>> in the running state the only graceful related code that is run is the
>> control point request tracking, however this may not be possible.
>>
>> One other thing that came up on our hipchat discussion yesterday is TX
>> level graceful shutdown actually has some significant drawbacks, as
>> you cannot send out the module unavailability message until all the
>> transactions have been closed. This means that while we are waiting
>> for transactions to complete the node will still be part of a cluster,
>> and clients will send it requests that will be immediately rejected.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>> - at EjbSuspendInterceptor if it is over, no request is allowed, if it is
>> not over, we need to check if current invocation contains a reference to an
>> active transaction
>>
>> - at some point, we need to let control point notify that the ejb module is
>> not longer available to ejb client after transaction suspension is over,
>> i.e., we need to do that when suspend has been requested and there are no
>> remaining active transactions available.
>>
>> On the other hand, it is hard to draw the line between what should be in the
>> transactions subsystem and what shouldn't. If the callback is done at
>> transactions subsystem, we need a way of having ejb3 notified that it is
>> done. If it is not done at transactions subsystem, ejb3 has to be notified
>> of the active transactions going to zero, which seems a lot of overhead, so
>> from this point of view maybe the callback should be in the transactions
>> system after all.
>>
>> Stuart and Gytis, any thoughts?
>>
>>
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