[wildfly-dev] [infinispan-dev] WFLYTX0013 in the Infinispan Openshift Template
Tom Jenkinson
tom.jenkinson at redhat.com
Tue Jul 10 10:40:01 EDT 2018
Hi Sebastian,
I am not sure if you raised an issue for this but I have just found one
from Brad that was similar so I am using that one:
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WFLY-10541
Thanks,
Tom
On 10 July 2018 at 14:32, Sebastian Laskawiec <slaskawi at redhat.com> wrote:
> Hey Tom!
>
> Could you please tell me what is the status of this? It seems one of the
> Keycloak users got hit by this problem: http://lists.jboss.
> org/pipermail/keycloak-dev/2018-July/010985.html
>
> Thanks,
> Sebastian
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:10 AM Tom Jenkinson <tom.jenkinson at redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sure - thanks!
>>
>> On 10 May 2018 at 02:56, Sebastian Laskawiec <slaskawi at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sorry for delay... I got sucked by the Summit prep activities.
>>>
>>> Yes, to all, what you said! Shall I create a JIRA for you?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:39 AM Tom Jenkinson <tom.jenkinson at redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Brian. Does it work for you Sebastian?
>>>>
>>>> On 8 May 2018 at 23:05, Brian Stansberry <brian.stansberry at redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ah, ok. I was thinking of scripting in the broad sense the various
>>>>> stuff that goes into creating images.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any case, I don't see any downside to having node-identifier="${
>>>>> jboss.tx.node.id:1}" in the standard WF config files.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Tom Jenkinson <
>>>>> tom.jenkinson at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think they want to avoid changing the standalone.xml file and just
>>>>>> want to control it from their startup script.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8 May 2018 at 18:45, Brian Stansberry <brian.stansberry at redhat.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I might have missed something along the way, but if they are going
>>>>>>> to do scripting wouldn't they just set the attribute to ${
>>>>>>> jboss.node.name} and count on the fact that this is unique per pod?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 3:28 AM, Tom Jenkinson <
>>>>>>> tom.jenkinson at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for confirming Brian.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could set it to:
>>>>>>>> node-identifier="${jboss.tx.node.id:1}"
>>>>>>>> (a bit like https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-
>>>>>>>> quickstarts/tree/7.1/jts)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sebastian could set -Djboss.tx.node.id during startup in a script?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7 May 2018 at 22:08, Brian Stansberry <
>>>>>>>> brian.stansberry at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If it's not already set, WildFly sets the system property
>>>>>>>>> jboss.node.name at the very beginning of server boot, so ${
>>>>>>>>> jboss.node.name*:1*} would not resolve to 1.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Sebastian Laskawiec <
>>>>>>>>> slaskawi at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so how about doing the same thing you suggested, but just
>>>>>>>>>> more explicitly - adding node-identifier="${jboss.node.name*:1*}".
>>>>>>>>>> This way the bare metal deployment should be happy (since the default is
>>>>>>>>>> still 1) and we wouldn't need to override it in Infinispan.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 10:09 AM Tom Jenkinson <
>>>>>>>>>> tom.jenkinson at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure - the default should be "1" for the bare metal
>>>>>>>>>>> case so the warning is reliably triggered but the default can be the pod
>>>>>>>>>>> name for OpenShift templates that only allow a single instance of the
>>>>>>>>>>> application server - does that help?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The file you looked to want to edit is shared by bare metal and
>>>>>>>>>>> other deployment environments so it would be confusing to set the default
>>>>>>>>>>> to jboss.node.name there IMO.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 May 2018 at 03:39, Sebastian Laskawiec <slaskawi at redhat.com
>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fair enough Tom. Thanks for explanation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> One more request - would you guys be OK with me adding
>>>>>>>>>>>> a node-identifier="${jboss.node.name}" to the transaction
>>>>>>>>>>>> subsystem template [1]? This way we wouldn't need to copy it into
>>>>>>>>>>>> Infinispan (since we need to set it).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/wildfly/wildfly/blob/master/
>>>>>>>>>>>> transactions/src/main/resources/subsystem-templates/
>>>>>>>>>>>> transactions.xml#L6
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 3:37 PM Tom Jenkinson <
>>>>>>>>>>>> tom.jenkinson at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 April 2018 at 14:07, Sebastian Laskawiec <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slaskawi at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Tom,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comments inlined.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 4:37 PM Tom Jenkinson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tom.jenkinson at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 April 2018 at 09:31, <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adding +WildFly Dev <wildfly-dev at lists.jboss.org> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the loop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the explanation Rado.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TL;DR: A while ago Sanne pointed out that we do not set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> `node-identifier`
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in transaction subsystem by default. The default value for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> `node-identifier` attribute it `1`. Not setting this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attribute might cause
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems in transaction recovery. Perhaps we could follow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rado's idea and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set it to node name by default?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indeed - it would cause serious data integrity problems if a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-unique node-identifier is used.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some more comments inlined.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 7:07 PM Radoslav Husar <rhusar at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hi Sebastian,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Sebastian Laskawiec
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > <slaskawi at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Hey Rado, Paul,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > I started looking into this issue and it turned out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that WF subsystem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > template doesn't provide `node-identifier` attribute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I assume you mean that the default WildFly server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profiles do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > explicitly define the attribute. Right ? thus the value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defaults in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > the model to "1"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > https://github.com/wildfly/wildfly/blob/master/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transactions/src/main/java/org/jboss/as/txn/subsystem/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransactionSubsystemRootResourceDefinition.java#L97
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > which sole intention seems to be to log a warning on boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if the value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > is unchanged.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Why they decided on a constant that will be inherently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not unique as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > opposed to defaulting to the node name (which we already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> require to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > unique) as clustering node name or undertow instance-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does, is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > unclear to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Some context is on https://issues.jboss.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browse/WFLY-1119.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In OpenShift environment we could set it to `hostname`.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is guaranteed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be unique in whole OpenShift cluster.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We do this too in EAP images.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To Rado's point, the default is "1" so we can print the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warning to alert people they are misconfigured - it seems to be working :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the point. From my understanding, if we set it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> node name (instead of "1"), we could make it always work correctly. We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could even remove the code that emits the warning (since the node name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs to be unique).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To sum it up - if we decided to proceed this way, there would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be no requirement of setting the node-identifier at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For OpenShift you are right there is no requirement for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone to change the node-identifier from the podname and so that is why
>>>>>>>>>>>>> EAP images do that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For bare-metal it is different as there can be two servers on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same machine so they were configured to use the hostname as they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> node-identifier then if they were also connected to the same resource
>>>>>>>>>>>>> managers or the same object store they would interfere with each other.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > I'm not sure if you guys are the right people to ask,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but is it safe to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > leave it set to default? Or shall I override our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infinispan templates and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > add this parameter (as I mentioned before, in OpenShift
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this I wanted to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > it as Pod name trimmed to the last 23 chars since this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the limit).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Putting a response to this in line - I am not certain who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> originally proposed this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You must use a globally unique node-identifier. If you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certain the last 23 characters guarantee that it would be valid - if there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a chance they are not unique it is not valid to trim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If that's not an issue, again, we could use the same limit as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have for node name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > It is not safe to leave it set to "1" as that results in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inconsistent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > processing of transaction recovery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > IIUC we already set it to the node name for both EAP and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JDG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > https://github.com/jboss-openshift/cct_module/blob/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> master/os-eap70-openshift/added/standalone-openshift.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xml#L411
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > https://github.com/jboss-openshift/cct_module/blob/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> master/os-jdg7-conffiles/added/clustered-openshift.xml#L282
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > which in turn defaults to the pod name ? so which profiles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > talking about here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Granted, we set it by default in CCT Modules. However in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infinispan we just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grab provided transaction subsystem when rendering full
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> featurepacks:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/infinispan/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infinispan/blob/master/server/integration/feature-pack/src/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main/resources/configuration/standalone/subsystems-cloud.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xml#L19
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The default configuration XML doesn't contain the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> `node-identifier`
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attribute. I can add it manually in the cloud.xml but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe the right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approach is to modify the transaction subsystem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Rado
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Seb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > [1] usually set to node-identifier="${jboss.node.name}"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 10:39 AM Sanne Grinovero <sanne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at infinispan.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On 9 April 2018 at 09:26, Sebastian Laskawiec
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <slaskawi at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > Thanks for looking into it Sanne. Of course, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should add it (it can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > to the same name as hostname since those are unique
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Kubernetes).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > Created https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ISPN-9051
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > Thanks again!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > Seb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Thanks Sebastian!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 8:53 PM Sanne Grinovero <sanne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at infinispan.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> I've started to use the Infinispan Openshift
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Template and was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > browsing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> through the errors and warnings this produces.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> In particular I noticed "WFLYTX0013: Node
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identifier property is set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> to the default value. Please make sure it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unique." being produced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> by the transaction system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> The node id is usually not needed for developer's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convenience and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> assuming there's a single node in "dev mode", yet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> Infinispan template is meant to work with multiple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nodes running so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> this warning seems concerning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> I'm not sure what the impact is on the transaction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager so I asked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> on the Narayana forums; Tom pointed me to some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thourough design
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> documents and also suggested the EAP image does set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the node
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> identifier:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> - https://developer.jboss.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message/981702#981702
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> WDYT? we probably want the Infinispan template to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set this as well,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> silence the warning?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> Sanne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> infinispan-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> infinispan-dev at lists.jboss.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/infinispan-dev
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> Manager, Senior Principal Software Engineer
>>>>>>>>> Red Hat
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Red Hat
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