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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Basically a project build doesn't
      produce the stuff that can be provisioned into a runtime
      environment.<br>
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      Be it WildFly Swarm, WildFly Modules or a more "alien" runtime,
      Fedora RPMs.<br>
      <br>
      Carlo<br>
      <br>
      On 10/04/2017 10:12 PM, Alexey Loubyansky wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">In the case of the provisioning tools, we don't
        generate module.xml files. Modules are provided by the
        developers/build process. We provide the mechanism to generate
        packages from the modules and then the feature-pack.
        <div>When a feature-pack is generated, we know which other
          feature-packs it depends on. Then when we generate a package
          from a module we process the module dependencies and figure
          out on which package(s) from which feature-pack(s) the package
          we generate should depend on.</div>
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        <div>I am still not sure whether that answers your question
          since it's formulated in the context of Swarm and I have a
          trouble translating it into the context of the
          feature-pack-based provisioning. I am interested in covering
          your requirements though. So if it makes sense to you let's
          continue the discussion or schedule a call to clear things
          out.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Scott
          Stark <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:sstark@redhat.com"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">sstark@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">Correct. Starting from a pom that contains
              the artifact dependencies, how to translate this into an
              appropriate module.xml for the output fraction is a trial
              and error process currently. Does the information exist so
              that one could go from GAV and/or package names
              dependencies to the module that provides said dependencies
              from amongst a set of wildfly feature pack?</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 8:03
                    AM, Bob McWhirter <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                        href="mailto:bmcwhirt@redhat.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">bmcwhirt@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">I think the issue (at least as I’ve
                        found it) is that we either:
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                        <div>a) scrub around in existing feature-packs
                          and modules/ directory to determine if there’s
                          a module.xml matching the thing and version we
                          need or</div>
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                        </div>
                        <div>b) hand-author a module.xml based upon
                          pom.xml, adding a chance to mess things up.</div>
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                            <div>-Bob</div>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 3, 2017
                              at 10:37 AM, Alexey Loubyansky <span
                                dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                  href="mailto:alexey.loubyansky@redhat.com"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">alexey.loubyansky@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                <div dir="ltr">It's not exactly clear to
                                  me what issue you are describing. But
                                  I can provide some basic info on how
                                  feature-packs are authored for the
                                  wildfly releases (core, servlet,
                                  full). Perhaps then you could ask a
                                  more specific question.
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                                    <div>A feature-pack represents a
                                      specific release. So there will be
                                      a feature-pack for the core,
                                      another one for the servlet
                                      distribution and another one for
                                      the full one. In feature-packs,
                                      modules are organized into
                                      packages (which is an atomic unit
                                      of content possibly with
                                      dependencies on other packages
                                      from the same or another
                                      feature-pack).</div>
                                    <div>When a feature-pack is
                                      generated, the packages are
                                      generated from the modules. Each
                                      module becomes are package in a
                                      feature-pack. And module
                                      dependencies become package
                                      dependencies. Is it any close to
                                      the issue you described?</div>
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                                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue,
                                        Oct 3, 2017 at 1:51 AM, Scott
                                        Stark <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                            href="mailto:sstark@redhat.com"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">sstark@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                        wrote:<br>
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                                          <div dir="ltr">Interesting.
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                                            <div>It brings up a
                                              discussion point I have
                                              been meaning to raise
                                              across the Wildfly and
                                              Wildfly-Swarm teams
                                              regarding tools for the
                                              step before this assembly
                                              step of feature-packs and
                                              fractions into a
                                              distributable archive.</div>
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                                            <div>The issue I have seen
                                              is that when authoring a
                                              feature-pack or fraction,
                                              it is difficult to know
                                              how to configure the
                                              module dependencies. One
                                              is often starting with GAV
                                              dependencies from a spec,
                                              and it is difficult to
                                              know how those map onto
                                              modules in existing
                                              feature-packs for
                                              fractions. Do we have any
                                              tooling in this area to
                                              make this task not a trial
                                              and error effort?</div>
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                                                  Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at
                                                  7:34 AM, Emmanuel
                                                  Hugonnet <span
                                                    dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                                      href="mailto:ehugonne@redhat.com"
                                                      target="_blank"
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true">ehugonne@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                  wrote:<br>
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class="m_-4384171384160506187m_-4611768009087258714m_2620672954518323220h5">Hi,<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    For those who can
                                                    take 7'26 of their
                                                    time to look at what
                                                    we can do with the
                                                    new provisioning
                                                    tool to build and
                                                    share custom feature
                                                    packs.<br>
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                                                      href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/84133sgsjef7pqs/feature_pack.mp4?dl=0"
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                                                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.dropbox.com/s/8413<wbr>3sgsjef7pqs/feature_pack.mp4?d<wbr>l=0</a><br>
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